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    • M Offline
      mattw0711
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      Anyone have any thoughts or tips in bringing in a two-point perspective section cut scene from SU into LO, and have layout make it read at correct scale?

      I know that being in perspective mode makes scaling not really work, but in theory, this could/should be done.

      Meaning, the section cut itself, ignoring anything beyond, is technically in parallel projection, and really its a flat 2D cut and could/should be scale-able. But then the "beyond" portions are simply projected off of the cut, and obviously would not be to scale.

      Any help or thoughts would be appreciated, thanks!

      I've attached a quick image from SU of what i would like to show, just need to have LO produce the section cut to scale.
      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101733587/Section.jpg

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      • JQLJ Offline
        JQL
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        Eneroth has a plugin for just that.

        What I do is that I have 2 scenes. One with the perspective and a copy where I see only a section cut face group.

        I place the section cut group viewport at the correct scale in layout, wich is easy as it's a 2D model, then you you copy that viewport and replace the scene in the model for the scene of the perspective.

        This way I get double viewports and can manipulate the section face scene independently of the perspective scene (wich is exactly what I do on ortho sections too).

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          pbacot
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          @jql said:

          Eneroth has a plugin for just that.

          There are plugins for LayOut?

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          • JQLJ Offline
            JQL
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            It's not for layout and I never used it, but it's a plugin that enables you to scale your perspective view in relationship to your screen resolution so you can translate it to Layout with a give scale.

            I understood what was the purpose but, again, I never used it, so it might work in another way...

            Here it is:

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
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              Thanks! Eneroth is a genius!

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                mattw0711
                last edited by

                Thanks for the heads up! I should have known there was a plug-in by Eneroth, she has a plug-in for everything!

                Was a little awkward to use at first, but once i got the gist of it, worked perfect. Was able to use scaled dimensions in LO and they read the exact heights they were suppose to!

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                  mattw0711
                  last edited by

                  @jql said:

                  Eneroth has a plugin for just that.

                  What I do is that I have 2 scenes. One with the perspective and a copy where I see only a section cut face group.

                  I place the section cut group viewport at the correct scale in layout, wich is easy as it's a 2D model, then you you copy that viewport and replace the scene in the model for the scene of the perspective.

                  This way I get double viewports and can manipulate the section face scene independently of the perspective scene (wich is exactly what I do on ortho sections too).

                  The Eneroth plugin worked great, but i am curious about your 2-viewport method. Can you elaborate a little more on this process? Or potentially have files to share showing the scenes in SU and viewports in LO?

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                  • JQLJ Offline
                    JQL
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                    You don't even need 2 viewports, I use them always though and I'm used to setting things up on sectioncutface viewport. So in LO you can:

                    • Insert a perspective viewport;
                    • Draw a line on the section through two points wich you know the dimension;
                    • Scale it so it fits the desired dimension;
                    • Write down the resulting scale factor;
                    • Scale your viewport to the same scale factor;
                    • Lock viewport scale;
                    • Stretch it's boundaries to focus or have a wider view of the model.

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                      mattw0711
                      last edited by

                      @jql said:

                      You don't even need 2 viewports, I use them always though and I'm used to setting things up on sectioncutface viewport. So in LO you can:

                      • Insert a perspective viewport;
                      • Draw a line on the section through two points wich you know the dimension;
                      • Scale it so it fits the desired dimension;
                      • Write down the resulting scale factor;
                      • Scale your viewport to the same scale factor;
                      • Lock viewport scale;
                      • Stretch it's boundaries to focus or have a wider view of the model.

                      Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. In actuality, you are doing the exact same thing that the plugin you referred me to does, just a different path to get there.

                      Totally makes sense, thanks again!

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                      • JQLJ Offline
                        JQL
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                        @mattw0711 said:

                        Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. In actuality, you are doing the exact same thing that the plugin you referred me to does, just a different path to get there.

                        Totally makes sense, thanks again!

                        Then I remember why I'm not using it... She won't mind, I use a couple of her plugins daily...

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