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    • RichardR Offline
      Richard
      last edited by

      So a client has employed a local marketing company to help them. The marketing gurus suggested that rather than the range of B&W background images I've been producing, that all works should be in full colour for maximum impact. So this is then what they are running with!

      Talk about people settling for crap!

      ADAPTIVE.jpg

      Original Render

      ADAPTIVE-FORMAL-MAIN.jpg

      [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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      • Bob JamesB Offline
        Bob James
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        Richard your original is Great! Did you make composite color/grey in PhotoShop?

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        • PixeroP Offline
          Pixero
          last edited by

          Your original render is much better. πŸ‘
          I can imagine that they thought the trees didn't match the surroundings where the house were to be built, but WHY did they change the foreground? 😲

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          • HieruH Offline
            Hieru
            last edited by

            Changing the background was bad enough, but why remove the hard landscaping as well? Now there's nothing to place the building in its environment!

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            • JQLJ Offline
              JQL
              last edited by

              LOL Richard, I understand why they did that and I can totally relate to your feeling! People are basically scared of ideas and deep emotions. Been there too and hate it.

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              • D Offline
                DOD3R
                last edited by

                Hi Richard,
                I find myself in situations like this too.
                Marketing managers are usually numbers people. They will have some website heat map study or something like that, and will know that colourful ( more saturated, and with higher contrast) images will get more attention and presumably sell better.
                I hate it and I cant do nothing about it. I view it as an architect as a problem, that needs solving. And communicate to the marketing people, that I need my work to by represented well. I cant risk my client to connect me with bad marketing or my project selling poorly, because its shown in a bad way.
                For me the best argument how to get out of this situation is to prove that your solution is better than competition.

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                • JQLJ Offline
                  JQL
                  last edited by

                  The fact is that marketing solutions aim at markets and architectural solutions aim at people.

                  Architecture tries creating uniqueness, marketing is about massification.

                  You're on opposite sides!

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
                    last edited by

                    Such a poor PS job too. Even I could've done that.

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                    • JQLJ Offline
                      JQL
                      last edited by

                      @pbacot said:

                      Such a poor PS job too. Even I could've done that.

                      LOL!

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                      • StinkieS Offline
                        Stinkie
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                        πŸ˜†

                        I feel for you, Richard.

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                        • cottyC Offline
                          cotty
                          last edited by

                          Oh yes...

                          my SketchUp gallery

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                          • DanielD Offline
                            Daniel
                            last edited by

                            Are those marketing "gurus" college freshman? Their so-called improved rendering makes it appear lifeless. I'm surprised they didn't contact you and ask if you have a color version of your rendering.

                            There is one consolation: at least they only changed the setting, and not the design of the building.

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                            • bazB Offline
                              baz
                              last edited by

                              Depressing Richard, happens to me a bit too. Just had a website destroyed by the company's accountant!

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                              • RichardR Offline
                                Richard
                                last edited by

                                @bob james said:

                                Richard your original is Great! Did you make composite color/grey in PhotoShop?

                                Yes mate! The background was added as BW, all the foreground elements were masked and desaturated.

                                [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                • RichardR Offline
                                  Richard
                                  last edited by

                                  @pixero said:

                                  Your original render is much better. πŸ‘
                                  I can imagine that they thought the trees didn't match the surroundings where the house were to be built, but WHY did they change the foreground? 😲

                                  Mate the background was selected to maintain a theme of non urban environments. Yeah why they dropped out the foreground of driveways and bedding I truly don't understand.

                                  [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                  • RichardR Offline
                                    Richard
                                    last edited by

                                    @hieru said:

                                    Changing the background was bad enough, but why remove the hard landscaping as well? Now there's nothing to place the building in its environment!

                                    I agree mate, it has lost EVERYTHING!

                                    [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                    • RichardR Offline
                                      Richard
                                      last edited by

                                      @jql said:

                                      LOL Richard, I understand why they did that and I can totally relate to your feeling! People are basically scared of ideas and deep emotions. Been there too and hate it.

                                      Thanks mate, want to join me and cry in the corner?

                                      [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                      • ntxdaveN Offline
                                        ntxdave
                                        last edited by

                                        While in general, your model looks far superior, I think what they were doing from a marketing viewpoint was adding the color. Having worked with some home builders in the past, they like the color. Especially if they are posting pictures in their sales office or marketing materials.

                                        Even given that, why the heck the removed some of your landscaping details is beyond my understanding. I can certainly understand your dismay.

                                        As for your work - WELL DONE.........

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                                        • RichardR Offline
                                          Richard
                                          last edited by

                                          @jql said:

                                          The fact is that marketing solutions aim at markets and architectural solutions aim at people.

                                          Architecture tries creating uniqueness, marketing is about massification.

                                          You're on opposite sides!

                                          Weird though that then you get the other clients! I put this render done to support a planning application on the front page of a brochure and website. Told the client and marketing guys that as soon as I could I'd flip it out with a full colour version. And they wanted this one to stay!

                                          They felt it was EDGY!

                                          vertical.jpg

                                          [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                                          • RichardR Offline
                                            Richard
                                            last edited by

                                            @dod3r said:

                                            Hi Richard,
                                            I find myself in situations like this too.
                                            Marketing managers are usually numbers people. They will have some website heat map study or something like that, and will know that colourful ( more saturated, and with higher contrast) images will get more attention and presumably sell better.
                                            I hate it and I cant do nothing about it. I view it as an architect as a problem, that needs solving. And communicate to the marketing people, that I need my work to by represented well. I cant risk my client to connect me with bad marketing or my project selling poorly, because its shown in a bad way.
                                            For me the best argument how to get out of this situation is to prove that your solution is better than competition.

                                            This is exactly what is driving me crazy in this situation (actually pissing me off)! I did the design and render at a VERY low licensing fee with a royalty agreement on every one sold. Now I seriously don't see them selling any!

                                            I guess we learn from our mistakes, I should have put a lot more conditions upon the agreement.

                                            [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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