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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
      last edited by

      @juju said:

      Is there some way you can incorporate a method for exporting/importing settings (user defined layers for example) in your various extensions? I'm migrating to a new machine and this seems like a useful feature, even though it may be one that will probably not be used a lot.

      I don't know how to do it on a Mac but if your running Windows you can probably pull the settings directly from the registry and then insert them back in on the new machine.

      I will give this some thought.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        The reason I am taking so long with complex rafter and truss roofs is the possible permutations is making things very challenging.

        For example take the truss roof below:

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su321_800.jpg

        I'm assuming there are no interior bearing walls and we want to clearspan the entire building outline. I can get the basic roof and truss layout by creating to hip truss sets as primitives but that is where it then becomes very interesting.

        As you can see there are two mid-building girder trusses that then catch the mono pitch sub-girders which are each supporting two common trusses. Next to the sub-girders is a small valley set (half valley) that fills in the roof behind the sub-girders.

        The largest span is 36', which is reasonable. This appears to be the simplest way to truss this roof out but is probably not the only solution. A good truss technician could tell me how close I am to the optimal solution.

        Granted the complex rafter roof is not IMHO as hard a problem but it also has similar difficulties and issues.

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        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          C'est merveilleux, merci beaucoup.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            I will make corrections on the post above! 😉

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              French translation of the Roof Truss Menu:

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su322_800.jpg

              I will roll a sub revision so everyone can try it out.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                It's a beginning! 😄

                Have you a system of translation ?
                Or I must edit some files ?

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  I am still compiling the list of words and phrases, there are a lot of menus, too many.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    That is the problem of very detailed program! 😉

                    Ps I can make an adpatation of this page in French! 😉
                    Only for the fun, (It's my hobby) ☀

                    So that will be a cool training for the future Panel's Truss Translation!

                    Yet made Twillight, Podium, FlexTools, Groboto (collector), ZBrush, SimLab Composer,
                    3DCoat (Manual), PolyBrush, Qubicle2, SUbD, Profil Builder2, Moi3D, GifCam, Monolith (manual), [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]Visualizer[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev], [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]SolveSpace[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev] etc...and so many UI, Manuals, curiosities etc...
                    I'm frightened by this list! 💚

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      Wow, that is pretty amazing.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Look at your Private messages! 😉

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          As the number of advanced options have increased (common trusses) the user input menu has slowly grown in size until it is so large that it often does not fit the screen of many laptops and smaller screens.

                          This problem has been well documented by a number of users for quite some time.

                          This weekend I spent some time putting together a new HTML menu for advanced options for roof trusses:

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su323_800.jpg

                          I still need to work out the metric version and also all of the language translations but otherwise I think it is almost ready to roll out.

                          As you mouse over each of the options a 320x240 image will display as shown, hopefully clarifying the meaning or usage of each parameter/option.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Help Image is a very very good idea! 👍
                            Very very first draft as you can see the "?" ! 😉

                            Veuillez choisir les options avancées pour les fermes de toiture
                            Roof and Wall Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture et Revêtement Mural
                            Roof Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture
                            Roof Sheating Thickness = Épaisseur du Revêtement de Toiture
                            Gable Wall Sheathing = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                            sub-fascia = Sous-fascia ?
                            sub-fascia type = Type de Sous-fascia ?
                            sub-fascia width = Largeur de Sous-fascia ?
                            sub-fascia depth = Profondeur de Sous-fascia ?

                            rakeboard = ?
                            gable overhang = Porte-à-faux du Pignon
                            rake board width = Largeur ?
                            rake board depth = Profondeur ?

                            outloockers = Débords ?
                            outlooker spacing = Espacement du Débord ?
                            outlooker size = Taille du Débord ?
                            structural outlookers = Débord Structurel ?
                            outlooker @ roof peak = Débord @ Pointe de Toit ?

                            heel blocking = Blocage du Talon ?
                            heel block orientation = Orientation du Talon ?

                            cladding = Revêtement
                            roof cladding = Revêtement de Toiture
                            hip and ridge cap = Capuchon de Croupe et de Faîtage ?
                            gable wall cladding = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                            additional options = Options Supplémentaires
                            soffit cut = Coupe de Soffite ?
                            roof returns = Retours de Toit
                            roof battens = Lattes de toit
                            ceiling gypsum = Gypse de Plafond
                            gutters = Gouttières

                            ...
                            dropped top chord = Panne Supérieure Lancée ?

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              First glance! 😄 (must be refined)

                              Veuillez sélectionner l'un des types de fermes suivants:

                              Commun en W - Tunnel - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux - Empennage - Double-Pente
                              Corde d'Arc (?) - Arceau de Barrique (?) - Polynésien - Bombé - Cathédrale - Plateau (?)
                              Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Shed - Voûte En Berceau (?) - Tunnel à la Mansart - Caisson
                              Treillis - Cathédrale Symétrique - Studio en Berceau - Double Inversé - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                              Remarque: Les types de ferme Shed, Arceau de barrique, Studio en Berceau et Double Inversé sont en cours de développement et ne sont pas encore disponibles.

                              ferme.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Version 2.1.1 - 12.04.2017

                                • Enabled a graphical user interface for advanced options of roof trusses.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  new refinement! 😄

                                  • Commun ( Classique en w) - Grenier( Habitable) - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux( Entrait Retroussé)- Empennage ( à coyeau) Double-Pente ( Asymétrique)
                                  • Corde d'Arc (Arc) - Arceau de Barrique (Arc triangulé) - Polynésien ( tropicale)- Bombé ( entrait retroussé variante ou Polonceau ) - Cathédrale - Plateau(Double ferme articulée)
                                  • Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Clergé (Contemporaine ) - Voûte En Berceau (En voute ) - Grenier Surélevé ( à la Mansart)- Caisson ( à entrait décalé)
                                  • Plat ( poutre treillis )- Cathédrale Symétrique ( treillis à deux pentes) - Studio en Berceau ( à entrait décalé) - Double Inversé ( double articulée) - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                                  https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/255775ferme03.jpg

                                  https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/647757ferme02.jpg

                                  https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/484019ferme04.jpg

                                  https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/576001ferme01.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                                    Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • G Offline
                                      glro
                                      last edited by

                                      @medeek said:

                                      I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                                      Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                                      not only that
                                      i had the same questions
                                      so i bought a mac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Mini
                                      sheap, you can use windows mouse, keyboard and screen
                                      there are a few things to modify in the ruby code por windows, to make it work on a mac

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        I am working on adding the heel blocking since it is an option listed in the advanced options.

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su324_800.jpg

                                        So far there has not been much call for this feature but a few people have inquired so I figured we might as well add it in for completeness. The red coloration is for clarity in the image above.

                                        I will probably add the option to allow for venting holes since this is fairly typical in my neck of the woods.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • pbacotP Offline
                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by

                                          Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            @pbacot said:

                                            Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                                            I agree, I was investigating this a while back but I'm not sure yet what is standard practice, there could be a number of ways of handling this.

                                            http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484676854/tips/SHEAR_PANELS_ego3xz.jpg

                                            http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484694321/tips/SHEAR_PANELS2_vis1pr.jpg

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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