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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      Hmmm...

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      • D Offline
        driven
        last edited by

        are they 6 sided polygons or circle?

        can you post that model?

        you may be able to rebuilding from those using code or manually...

        john

        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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        • ntxdaveN Offline
          ntxdave
          last edited by

          Yes, I was able to go in and manually start combining things but it takes a lot of work and I did not do the whole thing. Because of the shape of the bars and overlapping them, you have to erase some edges and it takes time.

          Still sees like the idea would be to draw a series of lines in the configuration you want and then use the Profile Builder 1 Pro that you have to create the whole thing in one shot.

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
            last edited by

            Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't it a few minutes work with follow me?

            Edit: Just noticed your comment about it being about whole cars not just this one job, so ignore me.


            Bar.JPG

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            • KrisidiousK Offline
              Krisidious
              last edited by

              Yes, the line and follow me with profile builder is how this was built, but that's not the goal, to be able to build it. It's to be able to convert it in to a connected shape when it's not currently.

              These are low poly existing models. They need to be converted to higher poly models.

              Now, if you could make a plugin that found the centers of each bar... that would be just as good if not better.

              By: Kristoff Rand
              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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              • KrisidiousK Offline
                Krisidious
                last edited by

                Yeah, I know I can do it manually... I was wanting to attack the problem, as it is common in converting low poly cars to high poly.

                here ya go... don't waste too much time on it. It's not a job or anything.

                rollbar.skp

                By: Kristoff Rand
                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  a plugin that found the centers of each bar

                  Not sure I understand the center of what? ๐Ÿ˜„
                  Refound the center of an arc circle or circle ? This exists by Chris Fullmer
                  (the inverse draw a perpendicular circle by the extremity of a segment ? This exists by Chris Fullmer )
                  the center of gravity of something? This exists by TIG
                  ...

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                    Krisidious
                    last edited by

                    Center of the pipes by building a line that could then be used to rebuild the pipe.

                    thanks for Perpendicular Face Tools though. gonna need that.

                    By: Kristoff Rand
                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      If you're talking about whole car bodies, what about using Artisan?

                      Etaoin Shrdlu

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                      (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                      G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                      M30

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                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                        Krisidious
                        last edited by

                        The bodies I can bring straight over and or easily rebuilt their topography. The roll bars are in the right place, but need to be rebuilt.

                        Capture2011.JPG

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                        • BoxB Offline
                          Box
                          last edited by

                          Kris it's all geometry, edges and faces, I think you need to be more specific and tell us exactly what you need to do. To me sorting the car shell would be important and a roll cage something that I could fix in seconds. But is seems the other way for you.

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                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                            Krisidious
                            last edited by

                            I thought I had been pretty specific. I need to recreate roll bars with connect geometry. from the simplistic and disconnected ones I have or get.

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Tubes which are linear - like the horizontal parts - can be easily extruded as tubes - that is if those path edges are welded into one continuous curve - perhaps with a transitional arc joining the straight bits.
                              Like my PipeAlongPath...
                              If you have an L junction a welded path will also extrude as you hope.
                              Add a transitional arc at the elbow if you don't want a right-angle mitered bend.
                              When you have a 'T' of a tube meeting another tube at something like a right-angle, then make the two parts, then use Fredo's RoundCorner tool to make a proper 'filleted' joint - i.e. just like you'd get with a real-world 'weld'...
                              If the scale of the modeling doesn't warrant such detail, then simply 'intersect' the two parts and delete the unwanted geometry...
                              You'll need to do some exploding/combining of geometry if parts gets grouped as you make them...

                              TIG

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                              • andybotA Offline
                                andybot
                                last edited by

                                Just thinking - you could use vertex tools to merge close vertices. That may work to clean up the breaks at each bend in one shot.

                                Edit: looked at the model - that works only for the smaller bends. For the perpendicular intersections, not much help there.


                                rollbar2.skp

                                http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
                                  last edited by

                                  That sounds like the labor I had envisioned Tig. I was really hoping for a clickable cure.

                                  Andybot, that did work, but each vert had to be welding 1 at a time. again pretty time consuming.

                                  And all of these work-arounds seem like more work that just rebuilding the roll bars.
                                  I guess that will have to do.

                                  Thanks for all the suggestions.

                                  By: Kristoff Rand
                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @krisidious said:

                                    That sounds like the labor I had envisioned Tig. I was really hoping for a clickable cure.

                                    Andybot, that did work, but each vert had to be welding 1 at a time. again pretty time consuming.

                                    And all of these work-arounds seem like more work that just rebuilding the roll bars.
                                    I guess that will have to do.

                                    Thanks for all the suggestions.
                                    There's no such thing as a free-lunch !
                                    ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                                    TIG

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                                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                                      Krisidious
                                      last edited by

                                      Fredo Lines2Tubes

                                      I guess it will do... I wish it were welded though.

                                      rollbar.JPG

                                      rollbar3.JPG

                                      rollbar4.JPG

                                      rollbar5.JPG

                                      rollbar6.JPG

                                      rollbar7.JPG

                                      Took longer here wrting and answering... But, I'd still rather have a pipe plugin that saw this geometry and knew I wanted 3" pipe in that general shape and welded.

                                      Or am I back to the new Profile Builder?

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                      • sdmitchS Offline
                                        sdmitch
                                        last edited by

                                        rollbar5.jpg is why I put a sphere at each vertex. That eliminates the outside gaps.

                                        Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                        http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          Why not use Plugins specialized in Pipes ?
                                          Like 3SKeng or this free one by Architectboy?

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                                            Krisidious
                                            last edited by

                                            a roll bar is one solid piece and the less pieces the better on the system.

                                            http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_221352_5TgHTnNTM6oQ_yH1OYPItE4Ok.jpg

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                                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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