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    • srxS Offline
      srx
      last edited by

      Thank you Fredo! You are my hero! 😄 This should be incorporated in Sketchup 2016 to prevent people for making mistakes in calculations..In the meantime we have Fredo Sketchup.

      www.saurus.rs

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      • Wo3DanW Offline
        Wo3Dan
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        @fredo6 said:

        ......I this is of interest I can later derive a more advanced version with choice of units and interactive selection, similar to what I did for areas with FredoTools::ReportLabelArea.Fredo

        It would be nice to be able to make your own selection of multiple solids to obtain the sum of volumes. And with unit of choice! And without differences in volume due to location!

        Although I do believe that solids with all back faces outwards should be considered as negative. (also see previous post by TIG).
        A mixture of front and back faces in a single shell should result in a warning.

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        • fredo6F Offline
          fredo6
          last edited by

          I published SolidVolume 1.1, which handles also faces area of the solid and allow to navigate in the selection, manually or via the outliner. It also works when the selection includes several solids, either independent or embedded in groups / components.

          Mixed back and front faces in a solid should give the same volume value as if all faces were correctly oriented outward.

          Fredo

          SolidVolume discrepencies.gif

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Excelent to have Volume + Surface ! Bravo!

            If this bug(?) is proved maybe will be useful to apply a correction factor ?

            Try also with this volume on the left! 😉

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • fredo6F Offline
              fredo6
              last edited by

              Pilou,

              On your model, it looks like Sketchup has a problem in computing the aggregate volume of the walls (41.5 m3) and the small cube (1 m3) when reversed. It counts the cube negatively, so the total is 40.5 m3. SolidVolume counts evrything positively, so the aggregate volume is 42.5 m3.

              Fredo

              Pilou model Volume.png

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                And about big moving on the space does that change measures ?

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • kenK Offline
                  ken
                  last edited by

                  Fredo6

                  Attached is a file with two boxes. One was created with sdmitch "Rotated Box" plugin, the other using the rectangle tool in Sketchup. Note there is a difference with your program showing the volume.

                  I can't see why the volumes would be this far off.


                  Volumes.skp

                  Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                  • fredo6F Offline
                    fredo6
                    last edited by

                    @Ken,

                    I also fixed this one, thanks for signaling.

                    New release in FredoTools v2.7d

                    Fredo

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                    • kenK Offline
                      ken
                      last edited by

                      fredo6

                      Thanks that did the trick.

                      Ken

                      Note, volume isn't everything, I require the weight of a filled container. I have taken one of TIG's volume plugin and added the math to determine the weight of the volume; oil, water, buoyancy salt water, buoyancy fresh water, river mud, concrete, wet river gravel, and barrel of oil. Had a great time in the learning process of modifying a plugin.

                      fredo6, thanks for this plugin. And thank you TIG.

                      And not to highjack this thread, your movealong plugin is absolutely fantastic.

                      Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                      • fredo6F Offline
                        fredo6
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Note, volume isn't everything, I require the weight of a filled container. I have taken one of TIG's volume plugin and added the math to determine the weight of the volume; oil, water, buoyancy salt water, buoyancy fresh water, river mud, concrete, wet river gravel, and barrel of oil. Had a great time in the learning process of modifying a plugin.

                        I can easily add an additional section to give the weight for a number of materials in several units.

                        Fredo

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                        • kenK Offline
                          ken
                          last edited by

                          fredo6

                          Thank you for the offer, however I believe that would be a lot of work that wouldn't be of use to most Sketchup user. To give you an idea of my list:

                          Barrels of Oil (Note there is only 42 gallons)
                          lbs Steel (A36)
                          lbs SS304
                          lbs Brass
                          lbs Aluminum
                          lbs zinc
                          lbs Lead
                          lbs Gravel Wet
                          lbs River Mud
                          lbs Sand Water
                          FW buoyany 62.4 lbs/cuft - Fresh Water
                          SW buoyancy 64.1 lb/cuft - Salt Water
                          lbs Crude oil

                          This list has been modified or added to as required. So I don't see how a set list would cover all the variables. Now a user input section would be nice, if it held the variables between sessions. Still a lot of work for a very few.

                          On another note, if you look at the image, you will see that the bottom part of your form is not being displayed. Maybe the box should be a little taller.


                          Image 1.png

                          Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            The free fabulous Designspark Mechanical (SpaceClaim Light) has this inside its library as Volumic Mass 😉
                            (my French Page(s) about this SU on Steroïds 😉
                            designsparks.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Thank you for the offer, however I believe that would be a lot of work that wouldn't be of use to most Sketchup user.

                              Just a reasonable work, in hours, to add the feature with a custom editable list.

                              @unknownuser said:

                              On another note, if you look at the image, you will see that the bottom part of your form is not being displayed. Maybe the box should be a little taller.

                              I fixed the problem in Fredotools v2.7e.

                              Fredo

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