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    • F 離線
      Futurepast
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      now this is a joint 🎉 http://www.wimp.com/precisionrequired/

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      • M 離線
        mrossk
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        There are no shortage of those crazy complicated joints in Japanese timber framing, and in the Chinese tradition as well. Not trying to take away from their accomplishment, but it helps just a little that they are working in soft woods like Doug Fir (or something similar.

        https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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        • Dave RD 離線
          Dave R
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          True that, Michael.

          Those Japanese craftsmen are certainly very exacting in their work.

          Etaoin Shrdlu

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          • soloS 離線
            solo
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            Watched the video twice, cannot get my head around how it works, looks like voodoo magic. Granted I'm no wood worker, but still that looks amazing and so strong.

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            • Dave RD 離線
              Dave R
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              Pete, it would be a very strong joint indeed. There are temples in Japan that are built with similar joinery and are hundreds of years old. They withstand the shocks of earthquakes and the vagaries of weather. But can you imagine building a structure with joinery like that these days in the west?
              The costs would be huge and few customers would spring for it.

              Etaoin Shrdlu

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              • gillesG 離線
                gilles
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                This is just a "trait de Jupiter", but very well made.


                trait de Jupiter

                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                • soloS 離線
                  solo
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                  Reminds me of one of these:

                  http://kubiyagames.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/i/diamond_cube_4_6-iq124_2.jpg

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  • S 離線
                    slbaumgartner
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                    @solo said:

                    Reminds me of one of these:

                    http://kubiyagames.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/i/diamond_cube_4_6-iq124_2.jpg

                    Except that wasn't made as precisely! 😄

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                    • pilouP 離線
                      pilou
                      最後由 編輯

                      What about the wood's wedge? 😲
                      It stay in place? ❓

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • jeff hammondJ 離線
                        jeff hammond
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                        @solo said:

                        but still that looks amazing and so strong.

                        glue is way stronger now than it used to be and glue-lam beams are a lot faster to make in bulk.. just hide the nastiness with some drywall and paint 😉

                        (though really, laminated wooden beams can be made to look real sweet when exposed too.. they're also a lot more stable than joining two solid beams together.. especially when considering we don't have nearly the access to old growth woods like they used to back in the day.. most of our framing timber is pretty much crap these days 😉 )..

                        it's sort of a bummer though from the craftsman point-of-view.. highly skilled joint makers have long gone under appreciated imo and even more so in the past few decades.. a lost art for the masses.

                        dotdotdot

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                        • cottyC 離線
                          cotty
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                          Nice find, couldn't resist... (model attached)

                          precisionrequired.jpg


                          precisionrequired.zip

                          my SketchUp gallery

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                          • KrisidiousK 離線
                            Krisidious
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                            Here's a few column joints I have in my library... I love architecture of the Orient, Namely buhdist architecture. I don't think it can be surpassed in attention to detail or pure style.


                            kakebana.jpg


                            kainokuchitsugi.jpg

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            • gillesG 離線
                              gilles
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                              @cotty said:

                              Nice find, couldn't resist... (model attached)

                              [attachment=2:23ds99g5]<!-- ia2 -->precisionrequired.jpg<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:23ds99g5]

                              To work properly this need a minimum angle.


                              trait de jupiter.png

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                              • Dave RD 離線
                                Dave R
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                                The one in the video isn't cut on an angle but it appears to work fine.

                                Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                • S 離線
                                  slbaumgartner
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                                  Yes, please explain why it needs a minimum angle...

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                                  • gillesG 離線
                                    gilles
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                                    @slbaumgartner said:

                                    Yes, please explain why it needs a minimum angle…

                                    If there is no angle the joint lose strength


                                    trait de jupiter#2.png

                                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                    • Dave RD 離線
                                      Dave R
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                                      Well, then, you're saying the joint in the video isn't such a great joint after all?

                                      I don't agree with you at all on that. I can think of plenty of joints that don't have angled cuts that are more than strong enough.

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                                      • KrisidiousK 離線
                                        Krisidious
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                                        I think we would need to know the intended use to know if it was sufficient.

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                          jeff hammond
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                                          i think the one in the video is actually angled in a similar way as gilles is showing.. when trying to look at the one they're working on, it's hard to tell if they're angled or if it's just camera perspective but this frame shows the other beam in the background in which the angle is more clearly noticeable.

                                          Screen Shot 2015-01-15 at 5.57.57 PM.png

                                          dotdotdot

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                                          • S 離線
                                            slbaumgartner
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            Boy, without knowing the actual locations of everything it is tough to say whether that is sloped or just the beam is angled away from the camera...maybe if Jeff wants to analyze the video frame by frame

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