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    Futurepast
    last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 13:39

    now this is a joint ๐ŸŽ‰ http://www.wimp.com/precisionrequired/

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      mrossk
      last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 14:17

      There are no shortage of those crazy complicated joints in Japanese timber framing, and in the Chinese tradition as well. Not trying to take away from their accomplishment, but it helps just a little that they are working in soft woods like Doug Fir (or something similar.

      https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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        Dave R
        last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 15:43

        True that, Michael.

        Those Japanese craftsmen are certainly very exacting in their work.

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          solo
          last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 15:51

          Watched the video twice, cannot get my head around how it works, looks like voodoo magic. Granted I'm no wood worker, but still that looks amazing and so strong.

          http://www.solos-art.com

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            Dave R
            last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 16:02

            Pete, it would be a very strong joint indeed. There are temples in Japan that are built with similar joinery and are hundreds of years old. They withstand the shocks of earthquakes and the vagaries of weather. But can you imagine building a structure with joinery like that these days in the west?
            The costs would be huge and few customers would spring for it.

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              gilles
              last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 16:51

              This is just a "trait de Jupiter", but very well made.


              trait de Jupiter

              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                solo
                last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 17:03

                Reminds me of one of these:

                http://kubiyagames.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/i/diamond_cube_4_6-iq124_2.jpg

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  slbaumgartner
                  last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 17:44

                  @solo said:

                  Reminds me of one of these:

                  http://kubiyagames.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/i/diamond_cube_4_6-iq124_2.jpg

                  Except that wasn't made as precisely! ๐Ÿ˜„

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 18:14

                    What about the wood's wedge? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                    It stay in place? โ“

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                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 18:21

                      @solo said:

                      but still that looks amazing and so strong.

                      glue is way stronger now than it used to be and glue-lam beams are a lot faster to make in bulk.. just hide the nastiness with some drywall and paint ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      (though really, laminated wooden beams can be made to look real sweet when exposed too.. they're also a lot more stable than joining two solid beams together.. especially when considering we don't have nearly the access to old growth woods like they used to back in the day.. most of our framing timber is pretty much crap these days ๐Ÿ˜‰ )..

                      it's sort of a bummer though from the craftsman point-of-view.. highly skilled joint makers have long gone under appreciated imo and even more so in the past few decades.. a lost art for the masses.

                      dotdotdot

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                        cotty
                        last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 19:30

                        Nice find, couldn't resist... (model attached)

                        precisionrequired.jpg


                        precisionrequired.zip

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                          Krisidious
                          last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 20:00

                          Here's a few column joints I have in my library... I love architecture of the Orient, Namely buhdist architecture. I don't think it can be surpassed in attention to detail or pure style.


                          kakebana.jpg


                          kainokuchitsugi.jpg

                          By: Kristoff Rand
                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            gilles
                            last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 20:59

                            @cotty said:

                            Nice find, couldn't resist... (model attached)

                            [attachment=2:23ds99g5]<!-- ia2 -->precisionrequired.jpg<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:23ds99g5]

                            To work properly this need a minimum angle.


                            trait de jupiter.png

                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                              Dave R
                              last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 21:02

                              The one in the video isn't cut on an angle but it appears to work fine.

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                                slbaumgartner
                                last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 21:05

                                Yes, please explain why it needs a minimum angle...

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                                  gilles
                                  last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 21:27

                                  @slbaumgartner said:

                                  Yes, please explain why it needs a minimum angleโ€ฆ

                                  If there is no angle the joint lose strength


                                  trait de jupiter#2.png

                                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 21:51

                                    Well, then, you're saying the joint in the video isn't such a great joint after all?

                                    I don't agree with you at all on that. I can think of plenty of joints that don't have angled cuts that are more than strong enough.

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                                      Krisidious
                                      last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 22:37

                                      I think we would need to know the intended use to know if it was sufficient.

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                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 22:53

                                        i think the one in the video is actually angled in a similar way as gilles is showing.. when trying to look at the one they're working on, it's hard to tell if they're angled or if it's just camera perspective but this frame shows the other beam in the background in which the angle is more clearly noticeable.

                                        Screen Shot 2015-01-15 at 5.57.57 PM.png

                                        dotdotdot

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                                          slbaumgartner
                                          last edited by 15 Jan 2015, 23:07

                                          Boy, without knowing the actual locations of everything it is tough to say whether that is sloped or just the beam is angled away from the camera...maybe if Jeff wants to analyze the video frame by frame

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