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      amarv91
      last edited by

      Hello,

      I have file saved on mac i.e my sketch files but in my finder the icon (preview) isn't showing. Its shows as a blank icon also sketchup file saved from windows machine is showing some weird icon.

      I have also attached the screenshot of the icon in this post.

      Sketchup preview icon on Mac

      Please check it and lemme know how to solve that problem.

      Thanks

      Amar

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        slbaumgartner
        last edited by

        First off, for reasons known only to Trimble, SketchUp on the Mac does not generate or display per-file custom icons. There have been some workarounds discussed on these forums, for instance

        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16015

        @driven also has an unpublished plugin to generate icons. You could PM him and request a copy for testing.

        However, there may also be something off-kilter in your system. While there are not per-file icons, a .skp file should display in finder with the SketchUp app icon, not a blank page. You might try opening the Get Info panel and seeing what is set for "Open with".

        Not knowing how you saved the Windows file, I can not hazard a guess at why it is showing that icon.

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          driven
          last edited by

          hi,
          the next thing to try is resetting 'Finder', one way is to 'quit' from Finder menu then reopen it...

          some questions:
          do they work when double clicked?
          which version of OS X?
          can you update to SU v15? [it's better than v13]

          the reason the two icons are different is Finder is trying to guess what the files are...
          both contain binary and text
          for the windows file it is being seen as a binary file
          for the mac the text will have mac line endings and is being seen as a unknown text file

          john

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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            slbaumgartner
            last edited by

            @driven said:

            the reason the two icons are different is Finder is trying to guess what the files are...
            both contain binary and text
            for the windows file it is being seen as a binary file
            for the mac the text will have mac line endings and is being seen as a unknown text file

            john

            John, you may have enlightened me about a strange effect I have noticed on my Mac: when I download a skp that someone created on Windows, it displays with the SketchUp via Parallels icon instead of the native Mac icon - despite the fact that I have set Open With to use the Mac SketchUp and double-clicking it will open it natively on the Mac! Finder and open appear to have independent ideas!

            Steve

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              hey Steve
              fwiw, the icons always look the same to me regardless of being created on mac or windows.
              but then again, i don't have parallels installed (assuming you do?)

              @Amar..
              maybe a silly question but just checking.. do you have sketchup installed on your mac?

              dotdotdot

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                slbaumgartner
                last edited by

                @jeff hammond said:

                hey Steve
                fwiw, the icons always look the same to me regardless of being created on mac or windows.
                but then again, i don't have parallels installed (assuming you do?)

                Hi Jeff,

                Yes, I have Windows 7 installed under Parallels on my Mac, and I have SketchUp Make 2015 installed on Parallels. I use this to test whether plugins I write will work on both platforms. So that's where Mac OS got the icon from. What's weird is that Finder displays a Windows-originated skp with the Parallels version of the icon even if Parallels is not currently running, and double-click a skp from any source launches Mac SketchUp, not Parallels. Of course, I regard this as a Mac OS issue, not SketchUp.

                Steve

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                  driven
                  last edited by

                  hi to all...

                  what do two show in Finder after downloading?

                  zipped...
                  renamed so wont clash with zip...
                  they should both show a real icon, unless the forum strips the mac resource fork...

                  looks like this here...
                  after download in coverflow...
                  downloaded from this post...
                  john

                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by

                    @driven said:

                    hi to all...

                    what do two show in Finder after downloading?

                    Screen Shot 2014-12-01 at 11.41.44 AM.png

                    dotdotdot

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                      amarv91
                      last edited by

                      @driven said:

                      hi,
                      the next thing to try is resetting 'Finder', one way is to 'quit' from Finder menu then reopen it...

                      some questions:
                      do they work when double clicked?
                      which version of OS X?
                      can you update to SU v15? [it's better than v13]

                      the reason the two icons are different is Finder is trying to guess what the files are...
                      both contain binary and text
                      for the windows file it is being seen as a binary file
                      for the mac the text will have mac line endings and is being seen as a unknown text file

                      john

                      Hey John,

                      I am using the latest release os OSX i.e Yosemite and i am already on SU 15.

                      Also sketchup is set as my default application to open all my .skp files.

                      I tried increasing the size of the preview icon from view option in mac i.e frm 64px x 64px to some 124px to 124px and the sketchup icon started showing but again when i had gone back to 64px is showed me as blank.

                      It is not showing only in thumbnail preview and other than thumbnail preview all the view options shows the icon correctly.

                      Also to make a diffrence between files saved on mac and windows, mac saved the file with hidden extensions property hence it is showing as blank but when we save our files on windows pc the defualt extension option is set to visible, hence both the icon appear diffrent in the preview but ya when i increase the size of the preview icon i.e from thumbnail to other such as column or something both the icon appear correctly.

                      May be there is some problem with mac finding the icons of smaller pixels.

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                        amarv91
                        last edited by

                        @jeff hammond said:

                        hey Steve
                        fwiw, the icons always look the same to me regardless of being created on mac or windows.
                        but then again, i don't have parallels installed (assuming you do?)

                        @Amar..
                        maybe a silly question but just checking.. do you have sketchup installed on your mac?

                        Yup i have sketchup installed on my mac and i dont hav any virtual desktop software on my mac.

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                          slbaumgartner
                          last edited by

                          You can see what I mean about the Parallels icon.


                          Screen Shot 2014-12-01 at 12.31.39 PM.png

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                            driven
                            last edited by

                            @amarv91, can you see the icon from the zipped skp I posted?

                            @jeff, cheers

                            @steve. that is odd, it's certainly not a windows generated skp...

                            what does

                            xattr -l <path_to_file>
                            

                            show for that file...
                            I'll see if I can find how I fixed it when I used Parallels, I did have that issue at some stage.

                            john

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              driven
                              last edited by

                              @steve
                              I think it was this as I have an old bookmark for it...
                              http://kb.parallels.com/en/4718

                              don't know if it's still relevant...

                              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                slbaumgartner
                                last edited by

                                @driven said:

                                @steve. that is odd, it's certainly not a windows generated skp...

                                what does

                                xattr -l <path_to_file>
                                

                                show for that file...

                                steves-macbook:Downloads steve$ xattr -l icon_test_raw.skp
                                com.apple.metadata:kMDItemDownloadedDate:
                                00000000 62 70 6C 69 73 74 30 30 A1 01 33 41 BA 2C E7 5E |bplist00..3A.,.^|
                                00000010 71 6F 65 08 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 00 00 00 |qoe.............|
                                00000020 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
                                00000030 00 00 00 00 13 |.....|
                                00000035
                                com.apple.metadata:kMDItemWhereFroms:
                                00000000 62 70 6C 69 73 74 30 30 A2 01 02 5F 10 3B 68 74 |bplist00....;ht|
                                00000010 74 70 3A 2F 2F 73 6B 65 74 63 68 75 63 61 74 69 |tp://sketchucati|
                                00000020 6F 6E 2E 63 6F 6D 2F 66 6F 72 75 6D 73 2F 64 6F |on.com/forums/do|
                                00000030 77 6E 6C 6F 61 64 2F 66 69 6C 65 2E 70 68 70 3F |wnload/file.php?|
                                00000040 69 64 3D 31 32 35 39 37 30 5F 10 3A 68 74 74 70 |id=125970
                                .:http|
                                00000050 3A 2F 2F 73 6B 65 74 63 68 75 63 61 74 69 6F 6E |://sketchucation|
                                00000060 2E 63 6F 6D 2F 66 6F 72 75 6D 73 2F 76 69 65 77 |.com/forums/view|
                                00000070 74 6F 70 69 63 2E 70 68 70 3F 66 3D 37 39 26 74 |topic.php?f=79&t|
                                00000080 3D 36 30 31 30 37 08 0B 49 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 |=60107..I.......|
                                00000090 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
                                000000A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 |.........|
                                000000a9
                                com.apple.quarantine: 0002;547cafde;Safari;9E1D94FE-013C-4742-B929-996591069EE1

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                                  driven
                                  last edited by

                                  not much help...
                                  maybe mdls will bare fruit...

                                  mdls icon_test_raw.skp
                                  

                                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @amarv91 said:

                                    Yup i have sketchup installed on my mac and i dont hav any virtual desktop software on my mac.

                                    if you double-click on one of those icons, does the file open in sketchup?

                                    dotdotdot

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                                      slbaumgartner
                                      last edited by

                                      steves-macbook:Downloads steve$ mdls icon_test_raw.skp
                                      kMDItemContentCreationDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                                      kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                                      kMDItemContentType = "dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81g45u"
                                      kMDItemContentTypeTree = (
                                      "public.data",
                                      "public.item"
                                      )
                                      kMDItemDateAdded = 2014-12-01 18:13:50 +0000
                                      kMDItemDisplayName = "icon_test_raw.skp"
                                      kMDItemDownloadedDate = (
                                      "2014-12-01 18:13:50 +0000"
                                      )
                                      kMDItemFSContentChangeDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                                      kMDItemFSCreationDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                                      kMDItemFSCreatorCode = ""
                                      kMDItemFSFinderFlags = 0
                                      kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon = (null)
                                      kMDItemFSInvisible = 0
                                      kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden = 0
                                      kMDItemFSIsStationery = (null)
                                      kMDItemFSLabel = 0
                                      kMDItemFSName = "icon_test_raw.skp"
                                      kMDItemFSNodeCount = (null)
                                      kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID = 20
                                      kMDItemFSOwnerUserID = 501
                                      kMDItemFSSize = 14847
                                      kMDItemFSTypeCode = ""
                                      kMDItemKind = "SketchUp Document"
                                      kMDItemLogicalSize = 14847
                                      kMDItemPhysicalSize = 16384
                                      kMDItemWhereFroms = (
                                      "http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=125970",
                                      "http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=60107"
                                      )

                                      Comparing that with the same command on one of my Mac-created skp's, nothing jumps out at me...a mystery!

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by

                                        a bit off topic but since sketchup is now 64bit, shouldn't we be able to get preview thumbnails out of sketchup itself?
                                        as in- Trimble could/should make some sort of QLgenerator (or whatever the applicable set up would be)?

                                        dotdotdot

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                                          driven
                                          last edited by

                                          the preview is in there but it's a tiny raster image...
                                          I think it should be possible to create a 3d preview for quicklook...

                                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            was just thinking they could update it to give 512px (at least) preview icons with the view of the model when the file is saved/closed being the icon view. rhino works like that and it's pretty sweet.

                                            idk, sometimes I wonder if the reasoning is because Trimble doesn't want to do it (for whatever reason) or if they just don't have the resources to work on things like that.

                                            dotdotdot

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