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    • Rich O BrienR Offline
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      @Box

      So continue to let the dog shit in your garden with the hope that it will stop at some point?

      Weird logic.

      My attitude is educate not ignore.

      They have used the PM system, twitter, facebook to harrass me in the past to promote their channel.

      This isn't an overnight problem but a longterm campaign by their content creators to hijack others content.

      I don't care if a million people visit the site based of me saying that they shouldn't. My point is to let Professional SketchUp users know that what they digest there is other people's content that is not credited.

      I'm not interested in good or bad press. I'm interested in seeing people given credit where credit is due.

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        Arrrrgh, I agree with everything you are saying!!!! I don't think it should be ignored!!! I agree that something needs to be done and it should be yelled from the top of the highest peak, But, and it's a very tiny but, I was simply saying that while posting here is a good thing to help educate people to this practice, the very nature of people going to look at it so they know what to guard against increases their hits and therefore their revenue, at least in the short term. If only there was a way for people not to have to visit the site to understand.

        Surfing is great fun, but one unfortunate downside to it can be getting sunburnt. Doesn't mean you shouldn't go surfing.

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        • Rich O BrienR Offline
          Rich O Brien Moderator
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          @Box

          It is SketchUpUrSpace I want to educate not members here. I certainly don't want to see them 'wiped of the face of the planet'.

          They need to know that it is not a nice practice.

          Telling people here that my content copy was used elsewhere might cause that person to say...

          'Hey, Rich doesn't deserve to have his tutorials posted elsewhere. I am going to give them a piece of my mind about that'

          Instead, I get some dude going 'Arrggh' cause he thinks I don't know what he is saying. Great.

          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
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            I'm quite happy for you to delete this whole conversation.

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            • andybotA Offline
              andybot
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              I totally agree with Box's point. Sites like these only live for traffic, they don't give a rats a$$ where they get their content from. In their minds, any exposure is good exposure. I don't imagine they really care what we say about them here as long as it drive traffic to their site.

              http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                d12dozr
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                @Box, I get what you're saying...one thing that would help NOT drive traffic to their site is to make your link in the 2nd post of this thread not clickable.

                I too have experienced Rajib copying an article I wrote and reposting it on his site. He removed it after Matt from MasterSketchup and I emailed him asking him to remove it. I refused to create content for their site after seeing how shabby the site was run.

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
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                  Very dodgy. Appalling spilling und grandma

                  A link to an old version of Sketchucation Store plugin without the ability to download.


                  SU.JPG

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    It's not just traffic we're discussing.

                    It's perfectly ok for someone to say 'hey, just ignore it. Move on'

                    But this is just a small example of the stuff that devalues good contributions.

                    There's another thread running on this forum where a member is complaining about commercial plugins not working in 2015.

                    This same member actively pirates and shares pirated software elsewhere.

                    Another member translates plugins so that they can get access to commercial betas tests to then crack and distribute.

                    Currently 90% of the free plugins available on the PluginStore are under a subscription system in China.

                    I can't ignore that approach to others hard work and talent.

                    Much the same as someone robbing a rendered image or model etc.

                    I know we can't police the Internet but we can educate those that make their own rules.

                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                    • andybotA Offline
                      andybot
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                      Rich, what these guys are doing is almost the opposite of what you describe. They want exposure, whereas pirates want to hide and sneak around. Nobody should ignore the stolen content, I don't think anyone who's posted has said that. I think the response needs to be different for this case - IMO it's better to bombard them with removal requests and ask everyone we know to boycott and provide negative reviews of the site where possible. BUT, avoid giving them traffic as much as possible.

                      http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Yeah. I totally agree. I just wanted to give u guys a heads up on the type of activity this community faces daily.

                        I look at duplication of any content as a bad thing that affects everyone of us.

                        Ideally I'd like to see all the members that SketchUpUrSpace lie to everyday posting here and learning from fellow pro users.

                        But I think I'm deluded in that regard.

                        I do side with Matt and Eric on this one though.

                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                          ericschimel
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                          I've got to agree with Rich on this one... They are allowed to make money on the internet. If they want to create their own content and then sell ads against that, they are totally in the right to do so. That's how this site operates after all. Look how great the value is here. I don't mind the ads at all, I even click on them from time to time because there is a great community here.

                          Stealing is a whole different ballgame...

                          Yes, us talking about it here generates more traffic, but educating people about them is important. If everyone silently sits around and lets them take content, they'll just keep doing it more and more. When I first decided to post this, I emailed a few people that I know that had content they created in their site. In almost every case those content creators (read: Real SketchUp users that created great content) were unaware that they had been a victim.

                          Now that we are all starting to make people aware we can collectively police them.

                          And besides, if we generate a few more hits for them, who's going to want to really go there anyway? The site is terrible. It's full of mis-information and spelling errors. There is little to no value in it anyway. If people find the site through us, they'll probably come back here for real help and content anyway.

                          -Eric
                          http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                          Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
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                            ericschimel
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                            An easy place for you all to look is here:

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                            Google Sketchup updates !

                            SketchUp4architect.com is the worlds largest portal on Trimble SketchUp Materials, Plugins, Components, Models Library.

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                            (sketchup3dcomponent.blogspot.com)

                            If you see any articles, images, or quotes that are stolen you can report them here:

                            https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/42577?hl=en%26amp;ref_topic=3030094

                            -Eric
                            http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                            Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
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                              ericschimel
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                              Just do you guys are aware of how much they infringe, this is a snippet of an email I just sent to Rajib Dey, the man who seems to be the perpetrator of a lot of this infrnigement. This list is just what I found TODAY:

                              (rajib@sketchup-ur-space.com)

                              The message:

                              Remove my images from your Pinterest account:

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                              Sketchup 3D modeling

                              From sketchup model to solar design, find what you're looking for on Pinterest!

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                              Pinterest (www.pinterest.com)

                              My images, and name were used here without my permission, remove them as well.

                              Link Preview Image
                              Sketchup4architect : Sorry, the requested page was not found

                              Sketchup4architect - It looks like the page you requested could not be found.

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                              (www.sketchup4architect.com)

                              Remove this one as well:

                              Link Preview Image
                              Sketchup4architect : Sorry, the requested page was not found

                              Sketchup4architect - It looks like the page you requested could not be found.

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                              (www.sketchup4architect.com)

                              And this one: (While you're in this one, remove the image you used on introducing Sketchup 2015, that's Matt Donley's. I'll let him know you stole it.

                              http://www.scoop.it/t/sketchup-world/p/4012961442/2013/12/19/an-exclusive-sketchup-training-on-google-helpouts-by-eric-schimelpfenig

                              Here you are representing me as part of your organization, this is not true. Remove this as well:

                              301 Moved Permanently

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                              (www.openpr.com)

                              You were supposed to have removed this article and you did not:

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                              Shaderlight for sketchup – Sketchup World

                              Posts about Shaderlight for sketchup written by Global Associates

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                              Sketchup World (arka48.wordpress.com)

                              You can also remove my name from this article as well.

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                              The sketchup team of Global Associates just launched the january issue of the exclusive magazine "Sketchup Ur Space"

                              SketchUp4architect.com is the worlds largest portal on Trimble SketchUp Materials, Plugins, Components, Models Library.

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                              (sketchup3dcomponent.blogspot.com)

                              This page as well:

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                              StumbleUpon

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                              (www.stumbleupon.com)

                              And this one:

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                              Page not found – Sketchup World

                              SketchUp4architect.com is the world's largest portal on Trimble SketchUp Materials, Plugins, Components, Models Library. Browse and enjoy by downloading all SketchUp updated plugins free versions and Trimble SketchUp Components.

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                              (arka48.wordpress.com)

                              This is ridiculous. Consider your self lucky that I am only asking you to remove content and not seeking legal action.

                              -Eric
                              http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                              Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
                              Custom Models

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                                ericschimel
                                last edited by

                                Alright guys, here's a great site that tracks all the theft that these guys have perpetrated. It also has resources to help you find out if you've been a victim, and report it.

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                                (sketchupurspace.com)

                                I had to chuckle at the URL.

                                -Eric
                                http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                                Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
                                Custom Models

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
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                                  Good Job Eric... Fight the good fight.

                                  By: Kristoff Rand
                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
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                                    Give 'em hell!!!

                                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                      ericschimel
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                                      Not sure I totally understand the point of that post, but I can tell you that Matt is a totally legit guy who runs a fantastic site with really solid SketchUp help. He and I both got duped by Ram not realizing that he ran a spam operation. The difference is that Matt has a big headlining product that he pays affiliates for. Mine (my plugin) and affiliate program aren't 100% setup, so Ram really didn't promote me as much.

                                      Matt has a mailing list, and ads on his site. They aren't spammy, and they are used to pay his bills so that he can create excellent SketchUp content.

                                      After Matt realized what was going on, he stopped having dealings with them. Matt's book is great, worth the money, and his free information is top notch. I refer people there all the time.

                                      Now that we have that out of the way, let's get back on track and stop the real spammers out there. To go http://www.sketchupurspace.com and read about them, and what you can do to stop it, or look at the first post in this thread.

                                      -Eric
                                      http://plugin.sketchthis.net
                                      Sketchup Kitchen Design Plugin
                                      Custom Models

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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
                                        last edited by

                                        This thread is a bit confusing πŸ˜•

                                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          We have dealt with this erroneous post and contacted its author about the choice of username.

                                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                            d12dozr
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                                            @unknownuser said:

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                                            That is not Matt, but unscrupulous people trying to make a buck from his affiliate deal. I can confirm that Matt is totally legit and would never act like these buffoons.

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