[Plugin] Skalp for SketchUp v2.0 (live section plugin)

otb designworks

Wow, this plugin looks excellentI do have a quick question about how Skalp works in layout, though, before I think about buying it.

For Skalp to be really useful for me, I would need it's sections to be recognized by the inference engine in Layout, so I could pull dimensions from the section cuts. I have been assuming that the Skalp sections don't work like that in Layout, but I didn't really start investigating this until yesterday and I couldn't find an answer on the website.

Could someone explain how these sections could be used in Layout, other than for just visualization?

Thanks!

otb designworks

Well that is pretty flipping awesome.

I'm buying this right now and will report back! Thanks for taking the time to make the demo vid.

Skalp

@otb designworks said:

Wow, this plugin looks excellentI do have a quick question about how Skalp works in layout, though, before I think about buying it.

For Skalp to be really useful for me, I would need it's sections to be recognized by the inference engine in Layout, so I could pull dimensions from the section cuts. I have been assuming that the Skalp sections don't work like that in Layout, but I didn't really start investigating this until yesterday and I couldn't find an answer on the website.

Could someone explain how these sections could be used in Layout, other than for just visualization?

Thanks!

Chuck,

The Skalp section is standard SketchUp geometry. Using the inference engine in Layout is no problem at all. I made a little video to illustrate.

http://youtu.be/FYlxvsGagi4?t=3s

The Skalp Team.

Skalp

@bsfranza said:

hey guys - what about the demo?

i would love to try and see for myself how your product is keeping up=)

Demo's are coming. Have a little patience or just buy

@edson said:

skalp is a hugely useful plugin and is worth every cent you pay for it.

bjornkn

I just bought it a little while ago, and it looks like it could be very useful.
However, it is pretty beta'ish at the moment, and I'm really looking forward to the next release, be it beta or not. I suppose it's not much point writing a beta/bug report now that it expires within a few days?

As it says that this current beta version expires 30 august, I hope there will be a new version available very soon?

Skalp

@bjornkn said:

I just bought it a little while ago, and it looks like it could be very useful.
However, it is pretty beta'ish at the moment, and I'm really looking forward to the next release, be it beta or not. I suppose it's not much point writing a beta/bug report now that it expires within a few days?

As it says that this current beta version expires 30 august, I hope there will be a new version available very soon?

Please always write beta/bug reports to support@skalp4sketchup.be. This is important info for us. There will be a new beta this week.

The Skalp Team.

bjornkn

@skalp said:

@bjornkn said:

I just bought it a little while ago, and it looks like it could be very useful.
However, it is pretty beta'ish at the moment, and I'm really looking forward to the next release, be it beta or not. I suppose it's not much point writing a beta/bug report now that it expires within a few days?

As it says that this current beta version expires 30 august, I hope there will be a new version available very soon?

Please always write beta/bug reports to support@skalp4sketchup.be. This is important info for us. There will be a new beta this week.

The Skalp Team.
I will do that after I get the new version, but currently I have to finish my current project.
One question though:
The manual says that Skalp supports nested groups/objects, but I can't really find if it is supposed to support "local sections"? That is one of the nice features of the SU sections that I can't get to work in Skalp.
One example:
I have a building with 4 floors, internal walls/doors and a lot of furniture.
The building has walls/windows etc as subgroups, and furniture are grouped for each floor.
Then it is all grouped into a single master group.

What I want is to cut down the walls so that the interior is shown, complete with furniture. I do not want to slice through the furniture here..
In SU I can apply a section to the external walls/windows only, or to the external/internal walls and windows, but leave all the furniture untouched. And I can apply sections to a single subobject far down the hierarchy, and to the entire scene, and have them all active at the same time.
Such behaviour seems currently to be impossible in Skalp?

The attachement shows 3 simultaneously active sections at different hierarchical levels.
Would this be possible in Skalp?

utiler

Hi Guys, just tried to import a CAD .lin file but I click on the link and nothing happens....

Any ideas?

utiler

Another question, I assume Skalp will only be viewed in Layout with either raster or hybrid mode; not vector. Is this correct?

Skalp

@utiler said:

Hi Guys, just tried to import a CAD .lin file but I click on the link and nothing happens....

Any ideas?

What type of file do you try to load?
If you try to load pattern files, this should be a .pat file.

The Skalp Team

Skalp

@utiler said:

Another question, I assume Skalp will only be viewed in Layout with either raster or hybrid mode; not vector. Is this correct?

If you like to see the textures, you should use raster or hybrid.
The patterns are raster in SketchUp and in Layout. Only when you use export to dxf, you get vector pattern hatches in autocad.

The Skalp Team.

Skalp

@bjornkn said:

@skalp said:

@bjornkn said:

I just bought it a little while ago, and it looks like it could be very useful.
However, it is pretty beta'ish at the moment, and I'm really looking forward to the next release, be it beta or not. I suppose it's not much point writing a beta/bug report now that it expires within a few days?

As it says that this current beta version expires 30 august, I hope there will be a new version available very soon?

Please always write beta/bug reports to support@skalp4sketchup.be. This is important info for us. There will be a new beta this week.

The Skalp Team.
I will do that after I get the new version, but currently I have to finish my current project.
One question though:
The manual says that Skalp supports nested groups/objects, but I can't really find if it is supposed to support "local sections"? That is one of the nice features of the SU sections that I can't get to work in Skalp.
One example:
I have a building with 4 floors, internal walls/doors and a lot of furniture.
The building has walls/windows etc as subgroups, and furniture are grouped for each floor.
Then it is all grouped into a single master group.

What I want is to cut down the walls so that the interior is shown, complete with furniture. I do not want to slice through the furniture here..
In SU I can apply a section to the external walls/windows only, or to the external/internal walls and windows, but leave all the furniture untouched. And I can apply sections to a single subobject far down the hierarchy, and to the entire scene, and have them all active at the same time.
Such behaviour seems currently to be impossible in Skalp?

The attachement shows 3 simultaneously active sections at different hierarchical levels.
Would this be possible in Skalp?

Indeed we support sectioning nested objects, but we doesn't support nested section planes. We will investigated if we can introduce this in a next version.

The Skalp Team

bjornkn

@skalp said:

Indeed we support sectioning nested objects, but we doesn't support nested section planes. We will investigated if we can introduce this in a next version.

The Skalp Team

I really hope you'll do that

Re nested objects, as the attached image shows, Skalp does not fully respect "local" section planes neither? It shows how it does add slices to solid objects/groups which are not cut by the SketchUp Section plane tool. The section plane is placed inside a group consisting of all the walls and windows only.

Skalp

@bjornkn said:

@skalp said:

Indeed we support sectioning nested objects, but we doesn't support nested section planes. We will investigated if we can introduce this in a next version.

The Skalp Team

I really hope you'll do that

Re nested objects, as the attached image shows, Skalp does not fully respect "local" section planes neither? It shows how it does add slices to solid objects/groups which are not cut by the SketchUp Section plane tool. The section plane is placed inside a group consisting of all the walls and windows only.

At this we doesn't support sectionplanes nested into groups or components. But I'll report it as a feature request.

The Skalp Team.

bjornkn

@skalp said:

At this we doesn't support sectionplanes nested into groups or components. But I'll report it as a feature request.

The Skalp Team.

Thanks
I really think that supporting what SU supports re nesting etc would make Skalp a lot more useful.

BTW, I just sent a bug report on this + another problem.
Looks like the email you supplied, support@skalp4sketchup.be , doesn't work?

  Recipient address; support@skalp4sketchup.be
  Reason; Illegal host/domain name found

I tried support@skalp4sketchup.com now instead. So far I haven't received any error messages from there.

Regards

bjornkn

@skalp said:

it is support@sklap4sketchup.com

Really?
I just got a reply/receipt from support@skalp4sketchup.com
Haven't tried "sklap" yet though

BTW, it would be nice if you translated also your 2 last menu sections, contact/resellers. Now part of it is in Dutch.

It would also be nice if you made available a small text file or something with all changes/fixes in the last version(s), as well as known bugs and planned features?

Skalp

@bjornkn said:

@skalp said:

At this we doesn't support sectionplanes nested into groups or components. But I'll report it as a feature request.

The Skalp Team.

Thanks
I really think that supporting what SU supports re nesting etc would make Skalp a lot more useful.

BTW, I just sent a bug report on this + another problem.
Looks like the email you supplied, support@skalp4sketchup.be , doesn't work?

  Recipient address; support@skalp4sketchup.be
>   Reason; Illegal host/domain name found

I tried support@skalp4sketchup.com now instead. So far I haven't received any error messages from there.

Regards

it is support@skalp4sketchup.com

Skalp

@bjornkn said:

@skalp said:

it is support@sklap4sketchup.com

Really?
I just got a reply/receipt from support@skalp4sketchup.com
Haven't tried "sklap" yet though

BTW, it would be nice if you translated also your 2 last menu sections, contact/resellers. Now part of it is in Dutch.

It would also be nice if you made available a small text file or something with all changes/fixes in the last version(s), as well as known bugs and planned features?

There are 2 places where you can find all changes/fixes in the last version(s):

p45 in the getting started manual (http://download.skalp4sketchup.com/downloads/docs/getting_started.pdf)
Skalp.rb file in the plugin folder.

The Skalp Team.

utiler

@skalp said:

@utiler said:

Hi Guys, just tried to import a CAD .lin file but I click on the link and nothing happens....

Any ideas?

What type of file do you try to load?
If you try to load pattern files, this should be a .pat file.

The Skalp Team

OK, thanks will try a .pat file.

utiler

@skalp said:

@utiler said:

Another question, I assume Skalp will only be viewed in Layout with either raster or hybrid mode; not vector. Is this correct?

If you like to see the textures, you should use raster or hybrid.
The patterns are raster in SketchUp and in Layout. Only when you use export to dxf, you get vector pattern hatches in autocad.

The Skalp Team.

Got it, thanks!