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    • B Offline
      Buckyman
      last edited by

      This is a model of an aluminum casting.
      I tried Drape tool but it's not much help in this situation.
      The logo is .015" thick and needs to be embossed into the casting.
      It may not be evident from the screen capture, but the casting surface is curved.
      emboss-logo.jpg

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      • olisheaO Offline
        olishea
        last edited by

        You tried intersecting the text into the casting?

        oli

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Try Draping a flat logo onto the surfacce... then using JointPushPull on the resultant facets to add the thickness...

          TIG

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
            last edited by

            And bump up the scale.

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            • B Offline
              Buckyman
              last edited by

              I scaled up and tried the drape. I had to drape each letter separately. I got half way through the letters and got a Bug Splat. The logo has 8455 entities.

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              • B Offline
                Buckyman
                last edited by

                I tried to just drape one element of the logo. It takes about 10 seconds. But the result is that only about half the entities are draped. You can see in the picture that the drape is "spotty"
                drape.jpg

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  This is because the lines around the letters are very very tiny.

                  SketchUp's tolerance is ~1/1000th"...
                  Two points that define the ends of a new line can't be closer than that - because they are deemed to be coincident and the line is not made.
                  Scaling up x1000 or even more will give SketchUp a fighting chance, as new lines are likely to be long enough to form.

                  Tiny geometry can exists [like when you scale everything back down again] BUT it cannot be created that size initially.

                  SketchUp is configured to work with 'building' related geometry - so nothing very tiny or gigantic is anticipated in its processing as such objects are not normally found in a building...

                  TIG

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                  • charly2008C Offline
                    charly2008
                    last edited by

                    Try TIGs Superdrape.


                    2013-12-10_153819.jpg

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                    • olisheaO Offline
                      olishea
                      last edited by

                      I've never seen Superdrape before. Will give it a go!

                      oli

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
                        last edited by

                        It sounds like you could well do with some simplification and cleanup of the logo itself as well.
                        If it's so tiny it doesn't need to have finely segmented curves. Reducing the complexity of the curves and welding lines together could help along with Tig's advice. 8455 entities is excessive for something like that.

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                        • B Offline
                          Buckyman
                          last edited by

                          Thanks everyone.
                          I tried SuperDrape, but when I try to select the first group (the logo), SuperDrape will not select it. Maybe it thinks the log is an invalid entity.
                          BTW I scaled the model 1000x to make life easier 😄

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                            Box
                            last edited by

                            Attach your model.

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                            • B Offline
                              Buckyman
                              last edited by

                              Thanks for the offer! File attached.
                              BTW, I completely redrew the logo so it very friendly. However I am now getting bug splat whether I use regular drape or super drape.


                              stl_export_7902_fillets.skp

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                              • BoxB Offline
                                Box
                                last edited by

                                There is something screwed up with your file.

                                I took the logo and the face you want to put it on and pasted them into another file.
                                I exploded, cleaned up and regrouped the logo and resized everything to something realistic.

                                Super drape and JPP worked fine. I have attached it for you as a finished solid. You can always use the tape tool to size it exactly to fit. But you'd be better off making or fixing your own.

                                I can't tell what version of SU you are using so I saved it as SU7. Please fill in your profile.


                                Super Drape solid.skp

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                                • cottyC Offline
                                  cotty
                                  last edited by

                                  Another possibility only with JPP and intersection...
                                  (scaled up before screencast 100x)

                                  [screenr:25iymm9r]46wH[/screenr:25iymm9r]

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                                  • B Offline
                                    Buckyman
                                    last edited by

                                    Wow, Box & Cotty, super helpful. Thanks very much!

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                                      Box
                                      last edited by

                                      Now if we'd know you had SU2013 Pro we could have suggested using Solid tools.

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                                      • B Offline
                                        Buckyman
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Box, I did update my profile as you suggested 😄
                                        I can see how Solid Tools could be used, but extruding (embossing) the logo on the curved shape would not have been possible without JPP I think.

                                        Cotty, at the beginning of your video, I am not sure you are doing with the lines on the casting, how are you making them disappear? Thanks

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                                        • BoxB Offline
                                          Box
                                          last edited by

                                          If you extrude the logo and make it a solid you can then place it in the surface of the other solid and use subtract. But yes, getting the depth right would be troublesome because of the curve.

                                          The lines can be smoothed just using the Eraser while holding ctrl, or hidden by holding shift. If you welded or recurved your profile lines you wouldn't get the lines on the surface to begin with.

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                                            Buckyman
                                            last edited by

                                            OK I think I see what Cotty was doing, local smoothing to yield a single face.

                                            I have followed Cotty's instructions, then used CleanUp v3, but when I save Sketchup prompts to fix the model, the result of which you can see below.

                                            validity-check.jpg

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