Modeling this Ralph Pucci Chandelier
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Any tips if I actually want to model the geometry?
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That texture ain't seamless.
To model something this complex in SketchUp is not advised.
Try Rhino with Grasshopper
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Is there any way to make the texture seamless? I imagine I could work it out in Photoshop?
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A quick attempt:
Tools used:
Tools on surface (trace a path)
Tape Maker (to create a solid conical)
Artisan (Sub / sm)
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You can make a seamless texture in photoshop using the offset technique but it can be hit or miss depending on the size and type of texture. Google photoshop seamless texture offset. Of course it is possible though.
I tried something similar to this a while back and almost went crazy. It's really quite difficult.
I would start with a truncated globe and make a rotation array around the volume. Use JPP (joint push pull) to add thickness and then subdivide with Artisan to make everything smooth.
If you model in segments then make a rotation array you can ensure the geometry is seamless.
honeycomb lamp thread...which kinda went off topic!
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=333%26amp;t=50584also a working model that may give you some ideas of how to tackle the issue in sketchup:
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Thank you Micione and Olishea for the great suggestions!
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I attempted the truncated globe idea but it doesn't work. I tried using a honeycomb to keep things simple. Once subdivided it keeps the edges straight which isn't what I wanted to achieve. It won't subdivide into a globe shape once I had draped the honeycomb over.
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Getting to this is straight forward. It is the missing elements that require manual rework....lot's of it
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How did you do that?! I can think of a few ways but they take a loooong time. Did you twist the globe and multi face offset? Deleting the inner parts etc...
[edit] I managed to do it but it's by no means made up of quads. Messy mesh.
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Vertex Tools with soft falloff and select the top vert and rotate...
Pull a copy off one twister out blah blah blah...
Blender takes about 3secs to do the same when using proportional editing for the translations
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@toddakeson said:
Any tips if I actually want to model the geometry?
I think there is one basic element in there which you "only" have to position correctly...
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I made a sphere, offset the faces, deleted inner faces, used FFD to twist the globe and squash it. Then JPP and Artisan.
Not quads though. And it only took 20 minutes to display the geometry. I can make a pretty photo-realistic looking tree with 5 times less polys!
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@cotty said:
I think there is one basic element in there which you "only" have to position correctly...
ONLY!! lol Just tried, failed, gave up
What's worse is that these elements seem to overlap each other in places.
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Got something a little bit closer.
Left side I just manually copied Cotty's component around a globe. Right side I used fur plugin. Managed to get some good overlaps but it's still very messy.
The fourth image just uses less components. You have to use a sphere with less faces as fur plugin sometimes uses more than one component per face, even though I told it not to.
Fifth image I squashed a sphere using FFD and then ran the fur plugin. I can't think of any other way to do it. Once you use the Cotty component it's a 2 minute job with fur plugin.
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How is the real lamp illuminated? From the bottom dish?
I'll stop posting now I don't want to spam the thread lol
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Well done Oli, you're getting close.
One observation is that the elements seem to be bent following the curvature however. Now just use Fredo's bending tool on each of those...
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@massimo said:
Well done Oli, you're getting close.
One observation is that the elements seem to be bent however...Cheers massimo,
I know...You can see at the equator of my model how it looks faceted.
Problem is, the squashed globe has different curvature at different points. The equator is the most bent, then almost flat as it rises. hmmmmmm.
If it was a sphere then things would be much easier.I think this is possible in SU but lots of manual work required as Rich said.
Could even use 3 different components for the fur plugin. Slightly bent, bent and majorly bent!
Or how about intersecting the components into the globe? Then JPP the result, that would work.
The mind boggles!
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Wouldn't the most straight forward way be to, shape the sphere then take one longitudinal segment as a starting point and draw the shapes you want, extrude them and subdivide/smooth. Make that a component and rotate array it.
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