[Plugin] RichSection V0.5.8 UPDATED march 2015

pgarmyn

@unknownuser said:

Absolutly astonishing!
(tested in V8)

Another plugin who makes bugsplatsh :wxSU.rb !!!

Does it posible to delete these dotted lines in the free space ?
( i have not yet explore the plugin!

Ps Why you don't say on the first post that the UI of Rich Section is working automatically also in French?

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%(#0000FF)[Bonjour Pilou. Quel honneur

Pour enlever ces lignes, il suffit d'éteindre 'PROJECTION'. (La section calculera aussi beaucoup plus vite).
Dans les dessins technique (architecture), la projection représente les éléments au-dessus du plan de projection.
On peut aussi limiter la projection (par distance, calques). Une démonstration (distance de projection limitée) est faite dans video #03.

Je vais ajouter : Si la version de SU est française, elle chargera RichSection en français..]

For the rest of the world:

To take away those pointed lines, just switch off 'PROJECT'. (The section will also calculate faster).
In technical drawings (architecture), 'projection' represents the elements above the section-plane.
You can also controle wich elements are projected (by distance, layers). This is demonstrated (with projection limited by distance) in video #03.

For people with a french SU, the program will load a french RichSection dictionary.
For the rest of the world: are there traductors on this forum?

pgarmyn

For more important (big, complex) drawings. It is worth to use SU 2013. MUCH MUCH faster

pilou

Excellent!

pgarmyn

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pgarmyn

If someone want's to pay for my RichSection [Demo] plugin :
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http://www.sublog.net/archives/47883

I can't explain much in chinese, so i added an other video (above).

emerald15

Thank you. I've just completed a more than usually complex drawing that required cross sections. I use RichSection to great effect. I really like all the additional optional colours, line types & infills.

pgarmyn

@emerald15 said:

Thank you. I've just completed a more than usually complex drawing that required cross sections. I use RichSection to great effect. I really like all the additional optional colours, line types & infills.

May we see the result

ivreich

@unknownuser said:

YES the 2nd video is showing that
Use RichSection materials 'by layer' or 'by nature' or a combination.
Every RichSection can also have different section materials, by using a different 'prefix'

Hey there..

I've managed to figure out how to create different hatch patterns for objects on different layers, but I can't seem to create different hatch patterns for objects with different materials. It always goes back to the default pattern?

Also, I don't quite understand the options for the richsection material - what is the difference between "prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default" and "prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default"?

As I mentioned, I just can't seem to get material names to work in defining different hatch patterns...please help!

Thanks...
Joel

ladcwei

I think it could make good effect more safely

金钟寺.jpg

pgarmyn

@ivreich said:

..... I don't quite understand the options for the richsection material - what is the difference between "prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default" and "prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default"?
...please help!

Thanks...
Joel

Hi Joel

Supposing

Model : you used layers L1 and L2
Model : you applied the following materials to groups and components : N1 and N2
First possibility :
Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #L1.... / NOT existing materials : #L2
RS-options : prefix = #
RS-options : default material = #default
RS-options : section material = prefix+layername, default
RS section materials for a group or component in layer L1 : #L1
RS section materials for a group or component in layer L2 : #default (because #L2 doesn't exist)
2nd possibility :
Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #N1.... / NOT existing materials : #N2
RS-options : prefix = #
RS-options : default material = #default
RS-options : section material = prefix+materialname, default
RS section materials for a group or component with material N1 assignd: #N1
RS section materials for a group or component with material N2 assignd: #default (because #N2 doesn't exist)

Got it

pgarmyn

@ladcwei said:

I think it could make good effect more safely

It seems to be a very complex model
What kind of building is it ? With a giant bell at the center ?
Maybee the bell needs some thickness. You can do this with the Joint PushPull plugin from Fredo.

Thanks for sharing your experiance.

sexypox69

Cant get it to work like in the videos....it just works as sketchup native section cut, also sketchup crashed a few times (bugsplat)....but i love the intention. It would save me the time to go put in hatches in my layout documents

ladcwei

Yes,it's a temple for new year,it attracts much people to ring the bell on the three floors,it is supposed to be a kind of memorial tower.

However,in some complex models,the plugin could give section lines but never fill the hole,I don't know is there some problem has not been solved? It seems to work right.

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ArCAD-UK

@ladcwei said:

However,in some complex models,the plugin could give section lines but never fill the hole,I don't know is there some problem has not been solved? It seems to work right.

Missing faces also happens with TIG's Section Cut Face. He has done a lot of checks on it but there can still be situations in a model where a face can be missing without reason.

pgarmyn

@unknownuser said:

Cant get it to work like in the videos....it just works as sketchup native section cut, also sketchup crashed a few times (bugsplat)....but i love the intention. It would save me the time to go put in hatches in my layout documents

Hallo,
To know what is going on first exclude this :

...as native Sketchup : Did you used groups or components ?
Did you activate the plugin? (Menu Windows/preferences >> extensions). Is there RichSection-panel and a RichSection menu ?
Open de Ruby console (open the 'Windows' menu, and then click 'Ruby Console'): do you have any errors here while placing RIchSection cuts?
Bug Splat : What other plugins are installed? There can be incompatibility : see first post. Unactivate all other plugins, restart SU and test again the RichSection plugin. This should work !

I see you have SU 8 installed. I suggest to install SU2013 make (you can keep SU8). It faster and much more stable.
Then install (first and only) the RichSection plugin. It should work ! If it is the case, instal the other plugins, and test after each installation.

Please tell me if you got it working

pgarmyn

@ladcwei said:

Yes,it's a temple for new year .....
However,in some complex models,the plugin could give section lines but never fill the hole,I don't know is there some problem has not been solved? It seems to work right.

Nice to have some feedback. B
Beautifull and complex models

RichSection and also TIG's plugin use a method of the Ruby Sketchup-API (entities.intersect_with). Indeed ArCAD-UK This method handels the Intersection and automatically creates faces with speed. My experience is that the method can't handel very small faces Sometimes you can avoid this limit by scaling the model (x100 ... x1000).

ArCAD-UK

@Pgarmyn

My missing faces were in repeated components and should have formed a 50 x 100mm face in a rectangular box, so size wasn't the issue. The final solution in that case was to delete the failing group and create a fresh box. TIG spent time updating his plug using some of my models but I can still get face errors with abutting groups for no obvious reason. If you and TIG are both seeing this then you may need to get Trimble to look at the API.

ivreich

@unknownuser said:

Hi Joel

Supposing

Model : you used layers L1 and L2

Model : you applied the following materials to groups and components : N1 and N2
First possibility :

Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #L1.... / NOT existing materials : #L2

RS-options : prefix = #

RS-options : default material = #default

RS-options : section material = prefix+layername, default

RS section materials for a group or component in layer L1 : #L1

RS section materials for a group or component in layer L2 : #default (because #L2 doesn't exist)
2nd possibility :

Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #N1.... / NOT existing materials : #N2

RS-options : prefix = #

RS-options : default material = #default

RS-options : section material = prefix+materialname, default

RS section materials for a group or component with material N1 assignd: #N1

RS section materials for a group or component with material N2 assignd: #default (because #N2 doesn't exist)

Got it

Thanks...I managed to get both material names and layer names working (apparently I can't use default material names straight from the SU library; I have to change them for them to work), but I still don't understand the difference between the two richsection options highlighted in the attached image:

Thanks!
Joel

What is the difference between the two highlighted options?

pgarmyn

@ivreich said:

Thanks...I managed to get both material names and layer names working (apparently I can't use default material names straight from the SU library; I have to change them for them to work), but I still don't understand the difference between the two richsection options highlighted in the attached image:
Thanks!
Joel

It's a matter of priority
Supposing

Model : you used layers L1 and L2
Model : you applied the following materials to groups and components : N1 and N2
Model : Group1 in layer L1 and material N1 (assignd to the group)
Model : Group2 in layer L2 and material N2 (assignd to the group)

First case :

Model : existing materials in library 'in model' : #L1,#N1,#N2....
Model : NOT existing materials in library 'in model' : #L2
RS-options : prefix = #
RS-options : default material = #default
RS-options : section material = prefix+layername, prefix+materialname, default
RS section materials group1 (L1,N1) : #L1 (priority for prefix+layername)
RS section materials group2 (L2,N2) : #N2 (#L2 doen't exist)
2nd case :
RS-options and model as before, except:
RS-options : section material = prefix+materialname, prefix+layername, default
RS section materials group1 (L1,N1) : #N1 (priority for prefix+materialname)
RS section materials group2 (L2,N2) : #N2

Like for standard materials : nested groups can inherit the RichSection-material of a parent group

pgarmyn

@arcad-uk said:

@Pgarmyn

My missing faces were in repeated components and should have formed a 50 x 100mm face in a rectangular box, so size wasn't the issue. The final solution in that case was to delete the failing group and create a fresh box. TIG spent time updating his plug using some of my models but I can still get face errors with abutting groups for no obvious reason. If you and TIG are both seeing this then you may need to get Trimble to look at the API.

My experience is that SU (and his ruby method 'intersect_with') can't create an intersection-face if:

small faces; small is relative : it depends of the extends of the model
to many entities (edges, faces) in the same context (context = in the same group or component)
to many (complex) loops to create in the same context

ArCAD-UK, for the repeated 'small' components, does SU recognizes them as a solid? What are the dimensions of the model?
Maybee jou can send me the problematic skp-file (private if necessary, I will only use it for testing....)