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    • G Offline
      Glenn at home
      last edited by

      @sketch3d.de said:

      @joe wood said:

      'how to replace video card'

      uninstall the ATI driver (see above), replace card (do ground yourself before touching), install the latest AMD Catalyst driver (see above), done.

      Norbert

      +1, it really is that easy. Good luck Joe. I have one similar to that in my laptop and I am unimpressed but other factors may be involved.

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        numerobis
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        ...just to be clear, i didn't mean you should get a HD4350 which is one of the weakest cards from this series - much slower than a 4670!
        http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-q3-mainstream-quality-update-2/compare,1572.html?prod%5B2905%5D=on&prod%5B2900%5D=on&prod%5B2911%5D=on
        I only wanted to show you that there are still cards available from this series.

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        • Joe WoodJ Offline
          Joe Wood
          last edited by

          OK I can return it, so I should order this one? the GeForce GTX 650?
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130827&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords--pla--Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814130827&gclid=CNWouufty7oCFQE6Qgod528Afg

          I don't do much intensive modeling, and never do any rendering.

          will I still need that extra power connector with this card? The white ones with a 4 pin connection.

          Joe Wood
          woodsshop.com/

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            @joe wood said:

            OK I can return it, so I should order this one? the GeForce GTX 650?
            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130827&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords--pla--Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814130827&gclid=CNWouufty7oCFQE6Qgod528Afg

            I don't do much intensive modeling, and never do any rendering.

            will I still need that extra power connector with this card? The white ones with a 4 pin connection.

            Definitely a better card and Nvidia πŸ‘

            What is your current PSU?

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            • Joe WoodJ Offline
              Joe Wood
              last edited by

              I don't know Solo, I even had to google PSU :-)Can I look it up in my computer specs somewhere?

              Joe Wood
              woodsshop.com/

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                solo
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                @joe wood said:

                I don't know Solo, I even had to google PSU πŸ˜„Can I look it up in my computer specs somewhere?

                There should be a sticker on it, I do not know of anywhere one can check in windows however.

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                  Joe Wood
                  last edited by

                  yeah I can see a sticker up under the case but I can't read it unless I take it out.

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

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                  • Joe WoodJ Offline
                    Joe Wood
                    last edited by

                    no numer, I only want the card, sorry, I don't know anything about replacing video cards or what to buy. I'm feeling pretty ignorant now.

                    Solo, I've been googling what psu a dell dimension 4600 has, some are 250 watt and some 400 .. I downloaded the 4600 owners and service manuals, is it in there? Sorry I don't see it listed.

                    Joe Wood
                    woodsshop.com/

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                      numerobis
                      last edited by

                      The GTX650 not available as AGP card. The latest AGP cards are some Radeon HD4xxx and GeForce 7xxx. Or do you plan to buy a new board now?

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                        Charlie__V
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                        @joe wood said:

                        Can I look it up in my computer specs somewhere?

                        IF it is a Dell computer, (I think you mentioned it is).....find the "service tag #" on the exterior of the case.
                        It would be on a small decal about the size of a return address on a USPS envelope.

                        Then, simply go to the Dell site.....support....service tag#....enter sevice tag #....viola...all or most specs. should still be available specific to your build.

                        Charlie

                        Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                          Joe Wood
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                          OK, it has a 250 watt psu.

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

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                          • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
                            jiminy-billy-bob
                            last edited by

                            "AGP" and "PCI Express" are the type of connectors. AGP is outdated since several years. A PCIe card would simply not fit into your computer.

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                              Glenn at home
                              last edited by

                              @joe wood said:

                              OK, it has a 250 watt psu.

                              Did you open the case and verify?

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                              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                Joe Wood
                                last edited by

                                no I haven't Glen, I'd need to remove it to see the sticker on the bottom. Too many connected wires has me intimidated!

                                I did google some numbers on the side of the psu

                                cn 0f0340-47890-353-2067

                                and found this
                                http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1442482616&partno=0F0340&rid=88&gclid=CJWs-YDGzroCFUlyQgod8FQAIw

                                Joe Wood
                                woodsshop.com/

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                                  Joe Wood
                                  last edited by

                                  I asked this video card question at the Dell forum, and someone suggested this

                                  "Money would be better spent finding a GX620 with Pentium D.

                                  The 4600 is DDR with AGP.

                                  The GX620 uses DDR2 and has PCI-E video and with Pentium D would be many times faster in all aspects and would have many video options that could be re used later in a newer better faster machine."

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                                  what am I looking at on that page? Isn't that tower the whole computer? For $83? That's right around what I was thinking of paying for the video card alone.

                                  Joe Wood
                                  woodsshop.com/

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                                    Glenn at home
                                    last edited by

                                    You know Joe, getting a newer, used PC is not a bad idea. Here is a local CL add in your area that has 2 of those for $90 each.

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                                    They are older but they do use PCIe video cards (the newer ones) and they are dual core, 64-bit cpus which will be far and away better than your P4 based system. I really would not spend any money on that old system. I had one just like it and while it was a good PC for the 6 years I had it just got to a point where it was not worth upgrading it.
                                    Search around a bit on CL and fins one local, this way you can maybe see it run and check it's condition before you buy.
                                    Good luck πŸ˜„

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                                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                      Joe Wood
                                      last edited by

                                      Boy I don't know, then I'd have to transfer everything on this computer over onto the newer one and I've never done anything like that before. Is it that difficult?

                                      Joe Wood
                                      woodsshop.com/

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                                        Glenn at home
                                        last edited by

                                        @joe wood said:

                                        Boy I don't know, then I'd have to transfer everything on this computer over onto the newer one and I've never done anything like that before. Is it that difficult?

                                        Yeah you'd basically have to reinstall all applications and then transfer all files as well. That is the worst part of getting a new PC. It can be a pain but it's worth it when you get better hardware.

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                                        • sketch3d.deS Offline
                                          sketch3d.de
                                          last edited by

                                          @glenn at home said:

                                          That is the worst part of getting a new PC. It can be a pain but it's worth it when you get better hardware.

                                          because of this investing in a new, capable PC which will last some time is probably a better choice then investing in some ol' stuff... desktops are cheap these times, this one w/ the GTX from above and SU will fly.

                                          Norbert

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                                            solo
                                            last edited by

                                            @joe wood said:

                                            Boy I don't know, then I'd have to transfer everything on this computer over onto the newer one and I've never done anything like that before. Is it that difficult?

                                            Actually setting up a new machine is therapeutic, especially if you get one with a larger HDD or multiple HDD's, you get a clean fast uncluttered machine to start with, you can organize the install as you please, put stuff in the right places, only load what you need resulting in a slick fast 3D machine.

                                            http://www.solos-art.com

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