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    • tibetT Offline
      tibet
      last edited by tibet

      hi,

      i´ve created the same component five times, each one situated to a different direction, to

      find the best one which sticks to any face from all directions.

      it doesn´t work, even i checked " glue " to any 😄

      i thought it works to stick to object as group, when i use guide lines, but it doesn´t at

      all.

      i´d be grateful for any tips to fix it.

      thanks!

      http://img.sceper.eu/images/8PdmT.jpg


      componets.skp

      SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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      • Wo3DanW Offline
        Wo3Dan
        last edited by

        @tibet said:

        .....it doesn´t work, even i checked " glue " to any 😄

        i thought it works to stick to object as group, when i use guide lines, but it doesn´t at .....

        Well, the bolt component does glue to any face it is placed on when picking one from the components browser. Or when carefully copying one that is still glued to a face (pick an endpoint that is in the gluing plane when copying!)

        You should create the bolt with its local blue axis as the center line of the bolt. The gluing plane is always the local Red/Green plane.

        You can alter the existing components gluing plane to save you to redraw the bolt. Right click an appropriate bolt and select 'Change Axes' in the context menu. You'll now see the gluing plane as a blue cross in the Red/Green plane. Blue runs perpendicular to that cross and is currently NOT in the center line of the bolt.

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          Take a look at your bolt component in this file. I placed the insertion point at the end of the bolt because of how you showed it in your SKP file. If that's where you want the insertion point, stand the bolt on its end as shown at the origin. Then when you make the component, set Gluing to 'Any" and set the axes accordingly.

          Personally I would prefer the insertion point to be at the bottom of the head but maybe you have a different use for them.


          Tibet bolt.skp

          Etaoin Shrdlu

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          • tibetT Offline
            tibet
            last edited by

            hi,
            thanks for your quick and valuable answer !
            i must say, that i have different experiences with components.
            someday it works, another day not a chance.
            i don´t know the reason.
            should be object like eg.wall ( a place, where i want to situated the component )
            be marked as a component too or as a group for better result ?
            what is the best position for making a component to stick to whatever plane you choose
            to the middle of intersecting guidelines ?
            i´d be very grateful for share or tips to fix it.
            thanks!

            http://img.sceper.eu/images/tUx0W.jpg


            screw.skp

            SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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            • tibetT Offline
              tibet
              last edited by

              hi,
              thanks for your nice answer and model.
              i may find the cause of my problem. i always marked eg. wall as group or component too.
              when i want to place just component without guidelines to eg. wall, it works perfectly.
              but , when you place many guidelines as markers as an exact point for component,
              the component is lost, and glue itself in wrong axis.

              SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                As it's not easy to put an axis to a component maybe this little plugin Axes tools by Thomthom can help you 😉

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • tibetT Offline
                  tibet
                  last edited by

                  hi,

                  thanks for your valuable tip, very much appreciated!

                  SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Guidelines do make placing "gluing" components. For the example you showed in your first post, you could make use of inferencing and skip the guidelines altogether. And actually for that one, I would only place the first component and then make an array using Move/Copy.

                    In the case of your screw component, you should get in the habit of drawing them so their head is up, not down as your second image shows. That will make it a lot easier to get the axes oriented the way you want.

                    I frequently have need to place components at the intersections of guidelines so I use non-gluing components and just set their axes so the origin is at my desired insertion point and the axes are aligned with the default model axes. Commonly I am doing this for things like drawer pulls and door knobs where they are getting placed on the front of a model. That orientation is always known because the front is on the red/blue plane.

                    I've never had Pilou's difficulty in placing the axes where I want them in a component but it's nice he's got Thomthom's tool to help. If I need to move the origin, it is rarely dead center in the bounding box. It wouldn't be in your screw component either.

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      Interest of the Thomthom's plugin is when you have an hundred of different Components, you need just one click for make all the new axis! 😉

                      In fact it's yet useful since 2 different components!!!
                      I will be more speedy than if you draw the 2 new axis by hand! 😄
                      No time losted! 😉

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        Pilou, I'm not arguing about it being fast but how long would it take you to use it to put the insertion point at the bottom of the flat washer under the head of a bolt and on the center line of the bolt when that location is not centered in the component?

                        Etaoin Shrdlu

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                        • tibetT Offline
                          tibet
                          last edited by

                          hi,

                          plenty of excellent tips and ideas, thanks guys!

                          both of you´re very much needed here, each one with a unique understanding and wisdom 😄

                          SU 2015 Pro on Win10 x64

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