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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
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      And that is working ? πŸ˜„

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        More or less. πŸ˜‰

        Gai...

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          Aerilius
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          @chiefwoodworker said:

          So far Trimble gets a failing grade from me for its influence on SketchUp.

          In what way does Trimble show a different influence than Google? I don't see any influence.

          There's a famous saying in Germany: "You can't rebuild in 10 years what has been rotting for 40 years" (meant about the previous eastern Germany).
          I think it fits well to SketchUp. The transition to Trimble has cost a lot of time, effort and resources to rebuild infrastructure that is not yet visible to many. A lot of the foundations of SketchUp have been renewed (latest build systems, UI framework) which is the foundation for something new. While the development team has been continuously grown at a rapid rate, I'd expect visible changes to appear through the Extension Warehouse. This is the way through which Trimble and SketchUp give you new tools.

          Inline-reply: And yes, I mean not hobbyist scripts but Trimble extensions. Why should not Trimble add their tools via their own API (how a well-architectured software is supposed to work)?
          And: A multi-line Ruby console with unit tests has been added by the SketchUp team, whether you want it to be true or not.

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            Thank for this mitigated answer! πŸ˜„

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • KrisidiousK Offline
              Krisidious
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              Yeah they say not to do it but I'm lazy like that. And I enjoy breaking things.

              Revizto didn't migrate properly, They're fixing it now.
              Jim's old custom toolbar plugin doesn't work.
              Extrusion tools supposedly didn't work but mine came over fine, I updated it like TIG said anyway.

              I had to open and close sketchup after plugins were copied over and I had to checkmark plugins twice to make sure they popped up.

              I have of course not used all my plugins though...

              By: Kristoff Rand
              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                Well, Jim's custom toolbars plugin does not seem to work. I have not tested all my plugins but what I tested do work. Fredo's Round Corner (on my Win 8 system) only works if I set SU to run as administrator - but then it works.

                But why are you interested so much, Pilou? You'll stick to version 6 anyway, won't you? πŸ˜„

                Gai...

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                • KrisidiousK Offline
                  Krisidious
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                  Another kool small feature of SU 2013 is that when you click off of SU, like on your desktop, all of your toolbars minimize so you can see what you're doing. Then when you click back on the main SU window they pop back up. Nice.

                  By: Kristoff Rand
                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    frv
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                    This is what Hitler said about the Adobe license change recently;
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=67Iw9q2X9cU

                    So, whatever the rage I am expecting most here will upgrade, and the cost for a pro upgrade is rather "manageable".

                    I have a feeling that like the first OSX before the upgrade is just minor when looking at the end user experience. But maybe, and I hope so, more fundamental in terms of the underlaying code. Sketchup has served us well but sooner or later something needs to change more radically to keep up with the neighbors. Sketchup is too slow, too basic to stay were its at.

                    A positive way to think about this upgrade is the idea that things are changing "under the hood". The team might be readying Sketchup for real and more CAD directed development later on. Lets hope so. I have a feeling some insiders, more involved and knowledgable people do point in that direction.

                    I am not expecting a makeover for the suggested upgrade price. As an OSX user I find the material panel is no longer workable compared to any of the competition. It looks to me as if the development team at Trimble have never assigned a single material in a file with over 15 materials on an OSX system. If they had they would have fixed it or warn potential buyers that the panel is "under construction". With this in mind I feel very much like most of the posters disappointed about SU2013. I wish development would move on finally with Sketchup itself and drag itself out of the different alleys it seems to get stuck (layout, google earth) .
                    Francois

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                      wyatt
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                      @chiefwoodworker said:

                      @wyatt said:

                      I haven't seen any discussion regarding the cost to skip 2013 and upgrade from SketchUp Pro 8 to SketchUp Pro 2014. Will it be $95 or would one have to buy another full $590 license to skip a release cycle?

                      The upgrade from SketchUp Pro 8 to SketchUp Pro 2013 is $95 plus state tax.

                      Sorry, but that wasn't my question. I want to know what to expect to pay if I skip 2013 and go directly from 8 to 2014. Would I pay an upgrade fee or whole new license fee?

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                        dirkkkk
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                        Cool new site, interesting the sort of appstore for te plugins πŸ˜„

                        bummer whit the buttons on the new sketchup version.. I would have preferd if the icons would stay the same.

                        Greetingz

                        Dirk

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                        • KrisidiousK Offline
                          Krisidious
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                          @wyatt said:

                          @chiefwoodworker said:

                          @wyatt said:

                          I haven't seen any discussion regarding the cost to skip 2013 and upgrade from SketchUp Pro 8 to SketchUp Pro 2014. Will it be $95 or would one have to buy another full $590 license to skip a release cycle?

                          The upgrade from SketchUp Pro 8 to SketchUp Pro 2013 is $95 plus state tax.

                          Sorry, but that wasn't my question. I want to know what to expect to pay if I skip 2013 and go directly from 8 to 2014. Would I pay an upgrade fee or whole new license fee?

                          $590.00 US

                          By: Kristoff Rand
                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            jason_maranto
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                            @frv said:

                            This is what Hitler said about the Adobe license change recently;
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=67Iw9q2X9cU

                            So, whatever the rage I am expecting most here will upgrade, and the cost for a pro upgrade is rather "manageable".

                            That video is hilarious -- however I am one who has dropped Adobe like dead weight -- and have replaced the programs I used with open source alternatives when possible, and commercial alternatives otherwise... and that includes programs they make that are not even in the "Creative Cloud".

                            Nobody is so good they are irreplaceable... nobody. Furthermore, SketchUp is so far from that mythical position as to be laughable to even suggest it is... Photoshop by comparison was many orders of magnitudes harder for me to give up.

                            I HATE software companies that abuse the trust of the user -- this is why I refuse to use any Autodesk product for any reason... Adobe and Trimble are on that list now as well.

                            Best,
                            Jason.

                            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                              pbacot
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                              @frv said:

                              This is what Hitler said about the Adobe license change recently;
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=67Iw9q2X9cU
                              I wish development would move on finally with Sketchup itself and drag itself out of the different alleys it seems to get stuck (layout, google earth) .
                              Francois

                              I agree on the wish for development but I think LayOut is not an alley. And GE did serve many needs, though making buildings to populate it was not one IMO. It is the most significant reason to buy Pro (before they banned people from using Free for their work) and seems to have the most real feature upgrades this go around. A good version of the Hitler scene. I'll have to see the real movie one of these days.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                But why are you interested so much

                                Just to know if i must test all plugins before an hypothetic migration πŸ˜„
                                For the moment I am confortable with 6,7 πŸ˜‰

                                If I well understand all creators of a Ruby script must test all his production with this new version ? 😲

                                There is a big change of paradigm ?

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • Gus RG Offline
                                  Gus R
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                                  I should go back an add the note "not for commercial use" to any components I uploaded to Sketchucation. I miss Google's ownership of Sketchup already.

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                                  • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                    Dan Rathbun
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                                    @wyatt said:

                                    I want to know what to expect to pay if I skip 2013 and go directly from 8 to 2014. Would I pay an upgrade fee or whole new license fee?

                                    The FAQ says you can expect to pay "skip" fee + upgrade fee.

                                    I would GUESS the "skip" fee would not be less than 1/2 of the upgrade fee.

                                    The wording in the FAQ is very ambiguous:

                                    I'm not here much anymore.

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                                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                                      Krisidious
                                      last edited by

                                      Upgrade, Maintenance, and Support program details

                                      Just a moment...

                                      favicon

                                      (help.sketchup.com)

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        frv
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                                        To Jason,
                                        I really hope you will stick around no matter the quality of the upgrade. Your contributions to Sketchup (Maxwell) are very appreciated, at least by me.
                                        I think we will see a lot more older generations of software go this way, incrementally upgrading trying to make some money writing code and doing research. Apart from making sure the huge user base can keep up.

                                        But I am interested to see what we can tryout for a replacement for Sketchup. I mean really, equally handy, cheap, apps everybody can learn quickly, and that have a future to be well integrated in the world of architectural offices.

                                        Here we use Modo, Blender, Wings 3D, Vectorworks and what else to get our work done. Sketchup still is the most used and I would not know were to look for an alternative. Maybe Archicad or just move over to Windows and have a look at Revit or 3DS max. Most choices are lot more pricy without any way of getting these extra costs covered by our customers. Especially considering the crisis. Many architects who invested heavily in BIM have gone bankrupt partly because of the enormous amounts of time needed to get complex software and workflows productive.
                                        Francois

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                                        • I Offline
                                          ilay7k
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                                          Most worst news of update and "update" at all! πŸ‘Ώ
                                          Developers you waste time at drawing of horrible icons 🀒 ... f_ck...
                                          Same speed as 8... developers as fidlers... realy 13 disapointed me...hard to translate to english...f_ck...

                                          Chris Fullmer, are you in sketchup team? Really, huh?! Get it πŸ‘Ž

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                                            ilay7k
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                                            I think, someone who reads this topic, trick us a beta version of 8...ouch... 13 version.

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            @ilay7k said:

                                            @jiminy-billy-bob said:

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            There are more improvements, but under the hood.

                                            Which are ?... πŸ˜•

                                            He does not know.
                                            There are not new features. 😞 πŸ˜•

                                            What do you know what I know?

                                            One of the things under the hood is a new supported C API SDK aimed to replaced the old unsupported C++ API SDK.

                                            Not something the end user benefits from directly right now, something that benefits the whole SketchUp ecosystem in the long run.

                                            Tom, please, you are most ruby developer...capi, they made, what capi πŸ‘Ώ ...where, they should organize dev.bandcamp ... most of c++ plugins crashed...
                                            bad job... πŸ‘Ž

                                            i see severals from sketchup team, they lost in corners like cowards

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