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    • cottyC Offline
      cotty
      last edited by

      @wo3dan said:

      @cotty said:

      Add a (circular) face on top of the group (causing z-fighting but that doesn't matter)
      Right click this circular face > Align axes > Select group and circular face > Make component and! set 'Glue to: any'
      Reset global axes
      Select the new component and place it on ground plane > explode > delete circular face and its circumference.

      Sounds like a smart solution 😉
      I think the step "place it on ground plane" should change the orientation of the group? This step doesn't work for me... 😕

      My solution so far:
      fastest_rotation_cotty.jpg

      my SketchUp gallery

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      • Wo3DanW Offline
        Wo3Dan
        last edited by

        (Even faster with a scene according to the groups local axes)
        Open the group > save a scene with its local axes saved (only these axes matter).
        Close group.
        Select saved scene > copy model to clipboard > reset axes to systems axes,
        Paste clipboard content to model again. It will be according to resetted (=systems) axes.

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
          last edited by

          @wo3dan said:

          (Even faster with a scene according to the groups local axes)
          Open the group > save a scene with its local axes saved (only these axes matter).
          Close group.
          Select saved scene > copy model to clipboard > reset axes to systems axes,
          Paste clipboard content to model again. It will be according to resetted (=systems) axes.

          👍 very fast! 😲
          (I know I have to bookmark this because I will forget the exact steps in about 10 minutes 😎 )

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • Wo3DanW Offline
            Wo3Dan
            last edited by

            @cotty said:

            I think the step "place it on ground plane" should change the orientation of the group? This step doesn't work for me... 😕 ...

            (I also thought of your solution, using one of the hidden lined on the side.)

            If you mean that new green and red of the rotated group should be aligned according to their previous projection on the ground plane, then you might be right, then my 'Glue to: any' component is only correct along blue. Then you need some extra marks for a final rotation about systems blue axis.
            Is this restriction included?

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              use the move tool (at least in this particular instance)

              [edit]

              dotdotdot

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
                last edited by

                In theory one should be able to use 'smartdrop', as the bounding box is alignedb (but does not), this works in Vue by simply lifting it above flat surface and smart dropping it.

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • cottyC Offline
                  cotty
                  last edited by

                  @wo3dan said:

                  ... is only correct along blue.

                  That was the only goal.

                  my SketchUp gallery

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Align Tool 3D By Didier Bur ?

                    http://sketchuppluginreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/align_tool_small.gif

                    Draw a Plane wished as second end Object
                    and now just 5 clicks 😄

                    align.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • Wo3DanW Offline
                      Wo3Dan
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      use the move tool (at least in this particular instance)

                      Clever underestimated solution!
                      The tool lets you align to any current drawing axes with input 0, 90 etc. (degrees)

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                      • cottyC Offline
                        cotty
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Align Tool 3D By Didier Bur ?
                        Draw a Plane wished as second end Object
                        and now just 5 clicks 😄

                        👍 Didn't try this one but have to...

                        @unknownuser said:

                        use the move tool (at least in this particular instance)

                        This will only work if the group was created before the rotations but if this is the case, it is very fast too.

                        @solo said:

                        In theory one should be able to use 'smartdrop'

                        Didn't work for me in this case.

                        my SketchUp gallery

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                        • mitcorbM Offline
                          mitcorb
                          last edited by

                          In case you folks didn't notice, Pilou has updated his post with a demo sequence.

                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                          • sdmitchS Offline
                            sdmitch
                            last edited by

                            Using the Ruby Console

                            Sketchup.active_model.selection.first.transformation=Geom;;Transformation.new
                            
                            

                            Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                            http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              About the 3D Align tool by DIdier Bur above. 🤓

                              And works also even the object is not a group or a component!
                              So just a selection of something is sufficient! 😉

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • cottyC Offline
                                cotty
                                last edited by

                                @sdmitch said:

                                Using the Ruby Console

                                Sketchup.active_model.selection.first.transformation=Geom;;Transformation.new
                                > 
                                

                                I will call it an expert solution 👍

                                Did I say that I love this forum? ☀

                                my SketchUp gallery

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  As always, there's more than one way to do this. Some great options offered. Here's another one just for the heck of it.

                                  Rotate.png

                                  Assuming the cylinder is just loose geometry to start, make it a component, change it's axes so the bounding box is aligned to the geometry with the blue axis in the desired up direction. Bring in a copy of the component from the In Model Component library.

                                  rotate2.png

                                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                  (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                                  G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                                  M30

                                  %

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                                  • T Offline
                                    Trogluddite
                                    last edited by

                                    Easy - just open the previous version of your project that you saved before going nuts making the geometry all wonky! 😆

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      In this particular start position Sketchyphics can also works! 💚

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • Jean LemireJ Offline
                                        Jean Lemire
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi folks.

                                        If you want to practice with native tools, it takes only two quickly done rotations.

                                        Don't forget this trick from the help:

                                        http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94897

                                        See this SU file for ideas:


                                        fastest_rotation - V6 - JL.skp

                                        Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                                        • cottyC Offline
                                          cotty
                                          last edited by

                                          @jean lemire said:

                                          If you want to practice with native tools, it takes only two quickly done rotations.
                                          👍

                                          my SketchUp gallery

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            Or 3 rotations if the volume was more bad oriented! 😄

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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