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      Earle
      last edited by

      I have a table top made with a few components. I want to have another design from original, I select all the components and group them then copy and drag away. I make the new copy unique and set it to a new layer. All is fine but if I hide the layers and try to show just the new layer it will not sho unless the other layer is visible also??

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        pbacot
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        Hi,

        First, you need to select the components themselves and make unique--not the group.

        Maybe you did that. Nevertheless,it still seems you could have a problem with entities being on the wrong layer.

        The component copies (the new unique ones) are probably still on the first layer. The group you made of them is on the second layer but you need both layers on to see the components.

        Peter

        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          First, it sounds to me as if you are making a nested component. not group, of the components because there is no Make Unique option for groups.

          Second, since you have the components inside the nested component assigned to a layer, they keep that layer association even if you assign the nested component to a different one. There are two solutions that come to mind. Make a new layer for the original nested component and then use it to control the visibility of the first copy. Or, you could open the second nested component and change the layer assignment for the components inside.

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            Earle
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            Thanks guys,
            Like alot of things in sketchup you fumble through till it works. Working in layers in a 3d environment is indeed picky. I did the same thing I did before, I selected each of the 4 components and copied/moved. Selected each component on the new set and made unique. then selected all and placed on 2nd. layer and it worked-don't know why this time but I must have missed something the other 8 times I did it.

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
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              If you did what you described in your original post, that is different from "Selected each component on the new set and made unique. then selected all and placed on 2nd." In your original post you said you made a "group" and assigned a different layer to it.

              If you are finding layers tricky I think you would find the help files a worthwhile thing to read. Especially this.

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                Earle
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                No, I didn't make group I did the same thing that I did when it worked--but I found that one small piece was not made unique and I think this is what caused the problem.--work clean all the time eh? thanks
                Earle

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                  Dave R
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                  Well, as long as you've got it working. I was just going by what you said in your first post, "I select all the components and group them..."

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                    Earle
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                    Yes Dave and I think I used improper terms, I very seldom make a group as it puts everything back on layer 0 -that really messes me up. will look at the link you sent=thanks again for help.

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      The group is associated with Layer 0 but the contents of the group don't get their layer association changed.

                      I never use groups anyway.

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                        Earle
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                        Oh, ok so I have learned that too -so you don't use groups either-what is your reason?

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          My not using groups has nothing to do with layers. I've just never in almost 9 years found a case in my work where a group was more desirable than a component.

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                            Earle
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                            Yes, I understand that-there must be a reason on maybe a high rise building or something? anyway you have been a real help-can I send you a homemade apple pie or something πŸ˜„

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                              Dave R
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                              Thanks, Earle. Home made apple pie sounds great but I bet it wouldn't travel very well. How about you hold on to it and serve it to me if I ever wind up in your neck of the woods and darken your door. πŸ˜‰

                              There's a long list of things about components that make them a whole lot more desirable at least from the point of view of drawing woodworking projects. Maybe for a building in a collection of buildings in a city layout although I'd still use components for them, too.

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                                Earle
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                                Sounds good , if you ever come close to Prince Edward County in Ontario and I'll make the pie.
                                My son uses sketchup and is an architect -different work but combined with Autocad maybe groups have a purpose? I'll talk to him. Thanks for the time you must spend to keep idiots like me informed.
                                Earle

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