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    • Chris FullmerC
      Chris Fullmer
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      Two different simultaneous autosaves? Worst written high profile App? We must not be using the same software. Mine almost never crashes (except when I'm doing particularly grueling things to it in terms of high poly models).

      but seriously, simultaneous autosaves, what does that mean? I've never seen that. Mac thing? Or is your SU really borked?

      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
      All my Plugins I've written

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      • thomthomT
        thomthom
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        @gt5 said:

        sketchup (and only sketchup) itself crashes a lot

        hm... sounds something is amiss. I do experience the occasional crash, but not a lot - and I can almost every time trace it down to a rouge plugin. Sandbox Tools is my main cause for crashes - but that's only when I use it. Some other plugins might have observer active that might crash SU at any given time.

        Do you have a lot of plugins installed?

        Could you try running SketchUp with just Vertex Tools - no other plugins? Just so we can eliminate conflicts.

        This is a very difficult issue to debug, as it appear to be local to your machine. And all the data I get out of the API indicate that the toolbar is positioned and visible in the viewport - which makes me suspect there is something else going on here.

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          gt5
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          @thomthom said:

          ....difficult issue to debug, as it appear to be local to your machine.

          That's it! Boy do I feel silly. Deleted the .plist files, restarted, problem solved!

          Sorry to have troubled you, I should have thought of this sooner.

          g

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          • thomthomT
            thomthom
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            @gt5 said:

            @thomthom said:

            ....difficult issue to debug, as it appear to be local to your machine.

            That's it! Boy do I feel silly. Deleted the .plist files, restarted, problem solved!

            Sorry to have troubled you, I should have thought of this sooner.

            g

            I'm not that familiar with OSX - can you explain what these .plist files are? Where they are? In case I should get this questions again.

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              driven
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              @TT
              it's where defaults write and sketchup.write_defaults both read/write from/to.
              ~/Library/Preferences/com.google.sketchuppro8.plist
              there is also another less obvious one here
              ~/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Shortcuts.plist
              john

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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              • thomthomT
                thomthom
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                @driven said:

                @TT
                it's where defaults write and sketchup.write_defaults both read/write from/to.
                ~/Library/Preferences/com.google.sketchuppro8.plist
                there is also another less obvious one here
                ~/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/Shortcuts.plist
                john

                And what other side-effects does erasing these files have?

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  driven
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                  you loose all 'user' settings, the app regurgitates it's default list on next startup,

                  it's a common debug step, "trash the preference list" although I prefer to overwrite or delete only the suspisious ones, so I keep all my paths, toolbar co-ords etc...
                  john

                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    driven
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                    so the code I left earlier in the thread would have done the same thing, but only to your plugins prefs, if it had all your plugins names right...

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    • thomthomT
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Right, I need to make a note of this. How often do you find yourself doing this?

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        driven
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                        a lot when debugging things, or adding extra functionality [like Web Inspector] it so easy to do from Ruby Console using unix or SU cmds.

                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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