Can you get a list of OSX fonts somehow?

driven

Hi dan,

It is very bad to modify base classes. (spanky spanky)

it a one off, and the stand alone version was more complex for me to use...

# use as standalone function
def chunk_array(array, pieces=2)
  len = array.length;
  mid = (len/pieces)
  chunks = []
  start = 0
  1.upto(pieces) do |i|
    last = start+mid
    last = last-1 unless len%pieces >= i
    chunks << array[start..last] || []
    start = last+1
  end
  chunks
end

I also do most my testing in a separate version of SU with Pluggins turned off, and often check if methods are defined already first...

that works at the about the same speed as the first, not too slow, considering there are 297 fonts.

what i was musing, was, is there a way to have SU make one, return true, make next, return true, then next, etc...
so each operation is a single font... To see if that's actually faster or not. In theory it should be slower, but SU appears to bog down exponentially when I do them manually in sets of 6 V 12 V 18 V 24, and over 24 takes longer to run then the whole lot from either of your scripts.

Another mac 3D Font oddity I have noticed:

when using the native tool, I can make "" as 3D text,
which should be the apple icon although it may show as the windows icon on yours.

If I use code to try and generate the 2D Text (from console or a webdialog) although I see 'it' in the input window, I get some bizarre encoded string.

cheers again
john

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

what i was musing, was, is there a way to have SU make one, return true, make next, return true, then next, etc... so each operation is a single font...

Set chunk = 1

@driven said:

..., but SU appears to bog down exponentially when I do them manually in sets of 6 V 12 V 18 V 24, and over 24 takes longer to run then the whole lot from either of your scripts.

It's a caveat of using high quality. A lot of primitives are going onto the undo stack.
The higher the number of elements in the model, the slower things get.
I think we already tried saving the model between operations (to clear the undo stack,) BUT tests showed it did not speed things up.

@driven said:

... when using the native tool, I can make "" as 3D text,
which should be the apple icon although it may show as the windows icon on yours.

If I use code to try and generate the 2D Text (from console or a webdialog) although I see 'it' in the input window, I get some bizarre encoded string.

It could be a unicode UTF16 codepoint. Ruby is UTF8.

There are sometimes tricks you can do with Array.pack and String.unpack.

Code-wise, try to save .rb files in "UTF8 (without BOM)" aka "ANSI as UTF8" encoding. I don't know what your Mac code editor calls it, but that's what Notepad++ does.

driven

@dan rathbun said:

It could be a unicode UTF16 codepoint. Ruby is UTF8.

I often use them as puts on mac only scripts to remind me it won't work on a PC, they show up in console returns, so that side is ok, also I can make 3D Text versions with the native tool (which I thought was based on Todd's 3D TextTool ruby)
WebDialogs are UTF8 as well and they show up htere in most fonts [some don't have the charset]

@unknownuser said:

There are sometimes tricks you can do with Array.pack and String.unpack.

I looked into .encode to see if I could add a conditional to make one from code, i'll look into .pack... cheers

@unknownuser said:

Code-wise, try to save .rb files in "UTF8 (without BOM)" aka "ANSI as UTF8" encoding. I don't know what your Mac code editor calls it, but that's what Notepad++ does.

everything 'ruby' on the mac is "UTF8 (without BOM)" with unix line endings, even 'pasteBoard', 'Terminal' and 'Applescript editor' are since OSX 10.5.

It's only some downloaded rubies that need changing, although if it's just line endings any will work in SU.
john

Dan Rathbun

@dan rathbun said:

@driven said:

what i was musing, was, is there a way to have SU make one, return true, make next, return true, then next, etc... so each operation is a single font...

Set chunk = 1

I really meant, set:
chunksize = 1

Dan Rathbun

It is very bad to modify base classes. (spanky spanky)

This should do the job:

chunksize = 12
chunk = 1
limit = macFonts.length
model = Sketchup.active_model

fsize = 1.0
linespacing = 1.2

bold = true
italic = false
thick = 0.05
filled = true
quality = 0.0

i = 0

while i < limit

  begin
    #
    model.start_operation("3D Fontnames (#{chunk})")
      #
      chunksize.times do |n|
        #
        break if i == limit
        #
        item = macFonts[i]
        grp = model.entities.add_group()
        grp.entities.add_3d_text( "#{item}", TextAlignCenter, "#{item}",
          bold, italic, fsize, quality, 0.0, filled, thick )
        grp.name= item
        grp.move!( Geom;;Transformation.new(Geom;;Vector3d.new(0,-(i*linespacing),0)) )
        #
        i += 1
        #
      end # chunk
      #
    model.commit_operation()
    #
  rescue Exception => e
    puts("\n*** macFonts group Error! ***")
    puts("  i = #{i}")
    puts("  chunk = #{chunk}")
    puts("  font = #{macFonts[i]}\n")
    model.abort_operation()
    puts("Error #<#{e.class.name}; #{e.message}>")
    puts(e.backtrace) if $VERBOSE
    raise
  end

  chunk += 1

end # while

EDIT: Added a few Exception messages, and option vars before iteration.
EDIT(2): Added linespacing var.

Dan Rathbun

EDIT(2) previous code post: Added linespacing var.

driven

cheers again,
linespacing is a nice touch.
all the code runs, returns nil. then draws view with the new groups, changing chuncksize doesn't alter that.
it doesn't take too long.
only two fonts don't fully form, may be the size, but not bad really.

so, the main purpose was to check that the osascript fonts were the right one, and they are...

and I learnt a little ruby
thanks dan
john

Dan Rathbun

It occurs to me that because the fontsize is only 1 inch, that many arc segments are ridiculously small, perhaps overloading the SketchUp engine.

Try setting:
fsize = 1.0.feet linspacing = 1.25.feet

driven

Yeh, I tried that, didn't make a lot of difference,
I use 100 and 120

fsize needs to be in inches, doesn't it? a sample of the sample

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

fsize needs to be in inches, doesn't it?

1.0.feet will return a Length object == 12"

driven

I missed the dot... oops should stick to copy/paste

thomthom

I tried this:

<span class="syntaxdefault"><br />t</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Time</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">now<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=[]<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">osascript&nbsp;-e&nbsp;'tell&nbsp;application&nbsp;"Font&nbsp;Book"&nbsp;to&nbsp;set&nbsp;macFonts&nbsp;to&nbsp;name&nbsp;of&nbsp;every&nbsp;font&nbsp;family'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">","</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">uniq</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">each&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">strip</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">respond_to</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?&nbsp;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">strip</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">!&nbsp;}.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">sort<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;quitFontBook</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=(`</span><span class="syntaxstring">osascript&nbsp;-e&nbsp;'tell&nbsp;application&nbsp;"Font&nbsp;Book"&nbsp;to&nbsp;quit'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">`)<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">length&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">>&nbsp;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">1<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;then&nbsp;quitFontBook<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;end<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;macFonts</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">length<br />puts&nbsp;Time</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">now</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">-</span><span class="syntaxdefault">t<br /></span>

On the first run it yielded 8.500629 seconds.

The next was 2.422791 and 2.286048 seconds.

If I comment out the code the closes Font Book the times are 0.241677 and 0.228576.

So the overhead of launching Font Book is just all too high.

driven

but you only need to run once, and write the 'Users' personal font-list to file [save in TT-Lib]
if the User instals new fonts [very rare] they could delete the file and make a new one, or that could be an option?
john

thomthom

That could be a fallback. But I'm still hoping to find a method that works quickly which I can use. the fc-list is fast - it's just that I cannot get the output from that. ..and for some reason I cannot seem to direct the output to a file... Maybe one can trigger a new console command that might actually be able to write to file?

TIG

But this is bringing us full circle
You might as well try to use something like:
fonts_file="\"path/to/fonts.txt\"" system(fc-list : file family | grep /Library > fonts_file)
Or something similar ? #{fonts_file} ??... Whatever can be made to work !
Or even a more convoluted
UI.openURL('file:///'+commandfilepath)
And then read the ttf-font names from the fonts_file

There is a simple solution [KISS]...
In my own [far less sophisticated] '2dText' tool and some of my similar tools like 'AreaTextTag', which make 3dText as '2d flat editable text', my drop-down-list of the available fonts is simply a combined list of some ttf fonts that are usually shipped with recent PCs A_N_D MACs.
For the reduced list in the AreaTextTag it a simple array of a reduced list, typed in the code that the user can customize. In the more wide-ranging 2dText tool it's read in a simple txt text file ['2DtextTool_Fonts.txt' in the tool's subfolder] of the 44 common font-names - the user can edit this [there are instructions in the tool's Help] - either to remove unwanted ones [e.g. in case he doesn't use 'Wingdings' very much], or to add custom one he has also installed on his computer [like 'Architext' or 'Consolas'] that are not in the default combo list... This allows the user to have their own customized fonts list and it's not that hard to alter/update/customize either...

Dan Rathbun

Other option(s):

(a) Use UI.openpanel to let users manually pick font files, that are then added to the plugin's fontlist (kept as a hash file in the plugin's folder. The file distro's with a base set of standard Mac fonts.)

(b) Use the SDK and C/C++/Objective-C to get the list of Fonts Sketchup knows.

(From memory, I do think Sketchup's known fonts is exposed in the SDK.)

driven

I've found the KISS Applescript version, just figuring out if it's easier to strip the results first or in ruby.
the basic can then run as osascript...

set search1 to do shell script "mdfind -onlyin /Library/Fonts 'kMDItemContentTypeTree = \"public.truetype-ttf-font\"'" as text
set search2 to do shell script "mdfind -onlyin ~/Library/Fonts 'kMDItemContentTypeTree = \"public.truetype-ttf-font\"'" as text

results look like this
%(#0000FF)[/Library/Fonts/NISC18030.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Kai.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Hei.ttf
/Library/Fonts/BiauKai.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Apple LiSung Light.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Apple LiGothic Medium.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Lucida Console.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Candara Bold Italic.ttf]

also, I think if a plugins is offering font manipulation for artistic usage, it should have all the 'SU' fonts and let the User decide which to use
john

thomthom

So that returns the filenames, but do the filenames represent the font names exactly?

I know that I would not be able to do that with the fonts on a Windows machine as they usually are abbreviations.

Dan Rathbun

@thomthom said:

I know that I would not be able to do that with the fonts on a Windows machine as they usually are abbreviations.

XP
%(#004080)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Fonts]

TIG

I suspect that the ttf file name is not always the font name

MAC's 'fc-list' will provide the font-name, font-family etc -
I can't believe that 'we' can't get it to write the list to a variable using system(...)
Have you tried something like this?
font_list=system(fc-list : family | cat)
or similar, where the output gets piped to something that can return a value like 'cat' ?
OR perhaps:
font_list=system(cat (fc-list : family))
OR probably with 'escaped' (), more like:
font_list=system(cat (fc-list : family))