Can you get a list of OSX fonts somehow?

thomthom

That could be a fallback. But I'm still hoping to find a method that works quickly which I can use. the fc-list is fast - it's just that I cannot get the output from that. ..and for some reason I cannot seem to direct the output to a file... Maybe one can trigger a new console command that might actually be able to write to file?

TIG

But this is bringing us full circle
You might as well try to use something like:
fonts_file="\"path/to/fonts.txt\"" system(fc-list : file family | grep /Library > fonts_file)
Or something similar ? #{fonts_file} ??... Whatever can be made to work !
Or even a more convoluted
UI.openURL('file:///'+commandfilepath)
And then read the ttf-font names from the fonts_file

There is a simple solution [KISS]...
In my own [far less sophisticated] '2dText' tool and some of my similar tools like 'AreaTextTag', which make 3dText as '2d flat editable text', my drop-down-list of the available fonts is simply a combined list of some ttf fonts that are usually shipped with recent PCs A_N_D MACs.
For the reduced list in the AreaTextTag it a simple array of a reduced list, typed in the code that the user can customize. In the more wide-ranging 2dText tool it's read in a simple txt text file ['2DtextTool_Fonts.txt' in the tool's subfolder] of the 44 common font-names - the user can edit this [there are instructions in the tool's Help] - either to remove unwanted ones [e.g. in case he doesn't use 'Wingdings' very much], or to add custom one he has also installed on his computer [like 'Architext' or 'Consolas'] that are not in the default combo list... This allows the user to have their own customized fonts list and it's not that hard to alter/update/customize either...

Dan Rathbun

Other option(s):

(a) Use UI.openpanel to let users manually pick font files, that are then added to the plugin's fontlist (kept as a hash file in the plugin's folder. The file distro's with a base set of standard Mac fonts.)

(b) Use the SDK and C/C++/Objective-C to get the list of Fonts Sketchup knows.

(From memory, I do think Sketchup's known fonts is exposed in the SDK.)

driven

I've found the KISS Applescript version, just figuring out if it's easier to strip the results first or in ruby.
the basic can then run as osascript...

set search1 to do shell script "mdfind -onlyin /Library/Fonts 'kMDItemContentTypeTree = \"public.truetype-ttf-font\"'" as text
set search2 to do shell script "mdfind -onlyin ~/Library/Fonts 'kMDItemContentTypeTree = \"public.truetype-ttf-font\"'" as text

results look like this
%(#0000FF)[/Library/Fonts/NISC18030.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Kai.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Hei.ttf
/Library/Fonts/BiauKai.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Apple LiSung Light.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Apple LiGothic Medium.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Lucida Console.ttf
/Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Candara Bold Italic.ttf]

also, I think if a plugins is offering font manipulation for artistic usage, it should have all the 'SU' fonts and let the User decide which to use
john

thomthom

So that returns the filenames, but do the filenames represent the font names exactly?

I know that I would not be able to do that with the fonts on a Windows machine as they usually are abbreviations.

Dan Rathbun

@thomthom said:

I know that I would not be able to do that with the fonts on a Windows machine as they usually are abbreviations.

XP
%(#004080)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Fonts]

TIG

I suspect that the ttf file name is not always the font name

MAC's 'fc-list' will provide the font-name, font-family etc -
I can't believe that 'we' can't get it to write the list to a variable using system(...)
Have you tried something like this?
font_list=system(fc-list : family | cat)
or similar, where the output gets piped to something that can return a value like 'cat' ?
OR perhaps:
font_list=system(cat (fc-list : family))
OR probably with 'escaped' (), more like:
font_list=system(cat (fc-list : family))

thomthom

@tig said:

I can't believe that 'we' can't get it to write the list to a variable using system(...)

Yea, I wish I knew why this is mis-behaving inside SketchUp.

TIG

Have you tried any of my 'convolutions', to redirect / pipe its output to some other function that then might successfully return the values to 'system' ?
As it does several 'lines' of output in the console can we pipe it through a loop ?
Or like font_list=system(cat ($(fc-list : family)))
Perhaps with some \ escaping of the various () ???

thomthom

Not the recent ones. I only have access to a Mac at home, and last week I haven't been home for very long - certainly no time to test anything.

TIG

So there's still hope...
Perhaps driven etc can try...
I have no MAC access either...

driven

sticking with things we know return in console

> ttfList=(find ~/Library/Fonts/*.ttf`)
/Users/johns_iMac/Library/Fonts/Momo.ttf
/Users/johns_iMac/Library/Fonts/Tkds9crd.ttf
/Users/johns_iMac/Library/Fonts/machtgth.ttf
/Users/johns_iMac/Library/Fonts/machtssr-gm.ttf

fontsM=(mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_family ~/Library/Fonts/momo.ttf +
mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_family ~/Library/Fonts/Tkds9crd.ttf +
mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_family ~/Library/Fonts/machtgth.ttf +
mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_family ~/Library/Fonts/machtssr-gm.ttf)
(
Momo
)(
Trek
)(
"Machine Tool Gothic"
)(
"Machine Tool SanSerif"
)this is a quick manual cobble, but it could be coerced, john edit: or this > fontsM=(mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_full ~/Library/Fonts/momo.ttf +
mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_full ~/Library/Fonts/Tkds9crd.ttf +
mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_full ~/Library/Fonts/machtgth.ttf +
mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_full ~/Library/Fonts/machtssr-gm.ttf)
(
Momo
)(
"Trek DS9 Credits Text"
)(
"Machine Tool Gothic"
)(
"Machine Tool SanSerif"
)or for completeness > fontsM=(mdls -raw -name kMDItemFonts ~/Library/Fonts/momo.ttf +
mdls -raw -name kMDItemFonts ~/Library/Fonts/Tkds9crd.ttf +
mdls -raw -name kMDItemFonts ~/Library/Fonts/machtgth.ttf +
mdls -raw -name kMDItemFonts ~/Library/Fonts/machtssr-gm.ttf)
(
Momo,
Regular
)(
HamiltonSteel,
Regular,
Trek,
"Trek DS9 Credits Text"
)(
"Machine Tool Gothic",
MachineToolGothic,
Regular
)(
"Machine Tool SanSerif",
MachineToolSanSerif,
Regular
)`

driven

getting closer, but I really don't know ruby, take lots of trial and error,
> a=(find ~/Library/Fonts/*.ttf).to_a b=(a.collect{|x| mdls -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_family #{x}}) ["(\n Momo\n)", "(\n Trek\n)", "(\n \"Machine Tool Gothic\"\n)", "(\n \"Machine Tool SanSerif\"\n)"]how do I clean out the rest?

thomthom

b=["(\n Momo\n)", "(\n Trek\n)", "(\n \"Machine Tool Gothic\"\n)", "(\n \"Machine Tool SanSerif\"\n)"] c=b.map { |f| f[/[("\s]+([^"\n]+)[)"\s]+/m,1] }

Returns:
["Momo", "Trek", "Machine Tool Gothic", "Machine Tool SanSerif"]

driven

excellent Thomas,

when I use it on /Library/Fonts/*.*tf I get a more complete list, but some are linked files so I get
"could not find /Library/Fonts//儷宋."
how do I filter those out? [if I can't resolve them]
john

driven

###################################################################### t=Time.now a=(find -d /Library/Fonts -name "*.t").split("\n").map { |f| f.gsub(" ", "\\ ")} b=(a.collect{|x| mdls -nullMarker missing -raw -name com_apple_ats_name_family #{x}}) c=b.map { |f| f[/[("\s]+([^"\n]+)[)"\s]+/m,1] }.uniq puts c, "\n v2", Time.now-t ######################################################################
187 fonts from 1 Library in 7.147912 and I still have a couple of commas to remove...
john

thomthom

driven

`tt,
that's your browser not recognising the UFT8 apple icon. IE sometimes will show the Windows icon.

I use it as a line marker for mac only scripts I'm testing, so when I had 3 time now's I could find the end of each easily.
john

thomthom

I use Firefox.
Firefox understands UTF-8. There's some conversion going on here that mangles the formatting.

driven

http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/OSX/unicode_apple_logo.html

@unknownuser said:

This is probably fine for Mac-only applications. But it is NOT appropriate, and even WRONG, and it will NOT work properly as a general web page character. The problem is that the unicode value used is one of several that is set aside for private use. That means that each operating system, or application, or implementation is free to use those unicode characters for anything they want. It just so happens that Apple has chosen to use unicode character U+F8FF (decimal value 63743, or on the web as either  or ) as the Apple Logo. But some Windows fonts put in a Windows logo. And some other fonts put in a Klingon Mummification glyph. Or elven script. Or anything they want. And if it isn't defined in your local font, you'll just see a square. So who knows what you might see when I put the character in right here: 