Can't see my model
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Out of curiosity, is it possible you had a little line segment placed somewhere a long way from the rest of the model? I've seen cases of this with the same complaint of the model disappearing. If your model was,say, 10 feet long near the origin but you have a short line segment located at maybe a mile from it, zooming with the cursor not on the model could make it seem that your model disappeared. Zoom Extents wouldn't make it any better. In fact, there was a recent thread related to the zooming issue. See http://sketchucation.com/forums//viewtopic.php?f=15&t=48320&start=15#p434378 The second image shows what happens when I used Zoom Extents. Maybe that happened to you.
Your action of using Select All, Copy and then Paste into a new SketchUp session meant that the camera was zoomed in to the setting you have established in your default template.
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Hi Dave
No, I really don't think I had a stray line like you describe (I did follow that thread by the way, interesting). As I mentioned, I had copied and pasted several models into the model in question, not paste-in-place but just paste, and I placed the cursor in the center of the screen. After the pasting was finished it indicated that the cursor was on "endpoint in group", which tells me that the model was pasted right where I had placed the cursor, but I still could not see anything. Hope that made sense.
Also, you know how when you rename a component in the component browser and hit enter then wherever you move the cursor you are dragging a copy of the new component? Well, I was dragging the component but I couldn't see it.
I'm not saying that these are valid reasons for reaching this conclusion but (to me) everything pointed to the models being where they should be, but they were, for lack of a better word, "invisible". I honestly expected to see Rod Sterling looking over my shoulder
Oh, and one more thing - when I hit "select all" I assume it would have also selected the stray line you mentioned, but after I pasted it I did try zoom extents and it behaved normally.
I certainly don't pretend to know even one percent of what you guys know about SU, but in the end I got my model back. While I would really like to know exactly what happened I guess I'll just have to settle for that.
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Hi Hellnbak, hi folks.
If Autosave is set for, say ..., 5 minutes interval and you take close to that time to find the last autosaved file, there is a chance that SketchUp will autosave the defective file automatically, overwriting the previous one which might be correct.
Personnaly, I desabled AutoSave a long time ago and got the habit of saving often, sometimes using a different name to save a model on which I did an extensive modification. then, if something goes wrong, I can always recover.
As for your model, assuming that you have no stray geometry far away from the main model, I have the following idea for procedures:
Case 1, you have at least a group or a component in your model.
1 - Menu Edit --> Unhide --> All
2 - Show all layers.
3 - Open the Outliner window.
4 - Right click on any group or component that is in the model. This brings up a contextual menu.
5 - Choose Zoom Extend from this contextual menu. The group or component will be shown filling the model window.
6 - Immediately create a scene to memorize that view. Then you can get back there if you get lost again.
Case 2, you have no group or component in the model.
1 - Menu Edit --> Unhide --> All
2 - Show all layers.
3 - Select all.
4 - Create a group with selection.
5 - Continue from step 3 of previous procedure.
Just ideas.
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Hi Jean,
I don't rely on auto-save exclusively, in fact probably 99.5 percent of my saves are save-as, with a brief description of what work was done on that version. But I haven't disabled auto-save, and won't, because it has saved me a number to times. And like I said earlier, this is the only time it has let me down.
And, also like I said, this whole mess was my fault for getting lazy and complacent, knowing that I should not do major work on a component while it's still in the model, especially using something twitchy like radial bend. This has taught me not to assume anything will go as planned, and that investing a few minutes copying the component to a new instance of SU before doing any major work on it is a lot easier than spending hours trying to recover from whatever disaster is going to rear up and bite me in the butt. I got off lucky this time because I managed to get my work back (eventually), and I look at the frustration and time spent as a good thing, in that it served as a wake up call to get back in the habit of doing what I used to do.
I keep a folder for whatever car I'm working on called "Project Work Folders" and there's a folder there for everything, from "Front Seat" to " Steering Wheel", where I save a new version after doing any work on the item. I really try to keep organized, and with six hard drives in my latest computer I can save everything as often as I like without worrying about hard drive space (and three of those drives are strictly for backups of my important files, so everything is backed up three times - I take no chances
). I look back to the first car I modeled and am amazed I ever got any work done, everything was such a disorganized mess. So at least in that respect I'm getting better.But I'm rambling. I really do appreciate your help and suggestions.
Have a good one
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"Amazing" co-incidence.
I was editing a group and moved the cursor off the object.
Boom! Hyper-zoom.
Now I am sitting on the moon looking at my model.
(well, not that funny)I cannot zoom back. I can spin the mouse wheel till it needs new batteries for all that I seem to get closer.
Zoom extents puts me back on the moon.Repeated Zoom window gets me closer, upto a point, maybe near the ISS.
I can select all, and see a very tiny blue blob near the origin.But if I try to zoom in, hyper-zoom brings me way past the object, and zoom window places the object out of view; where I don't know and any zooming or panning gives me the hyper-zoom effect and....
"To the moon, Alice."Extra points if you can tell me who said that.
How do I get back to my model
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Belay that. I got "home". I Zoom-Window'd over a larger area, and in such a way that the blue blob was just at the center of the window. After 5 times my model was big enough on screen to zoom in.
Now my problem is how to clear what may be a tiny line sitting on the moon so my extents are the model and not trans-lunar space.
Still, extra points if you can put a name to the quote. (That will also date you
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when you have all you need in your screen, select all CTRL+A on pc I suppose, then shift+select tool to deselect needed geometries and press delete.
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@jgb said:
"*To the moon, Alice*."Extra points if you can tell me who said that.
Jackie Gleason as Ralph Cramden on "The Honeymooners"
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When you say "Noticed my cpu was very active so I figured it was doing all the computations to complete the radial bending, so I waited until the cpu had calmed down, figuring my model would then reappear. And waited. And waited.
No model."
Do you mean Hard drive?
This happened to me and the hard drive kept going forever.
Finaly shut it down & re-booted and HD still going forever again but could still work on the pc.
Still slow till it finally calmed down.
Lost SU drawing at that point though.
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@jpalm32 said:
When you say "Noticed my cpu was very active so I figured it was doing all the computations to complete the radial bending, so I waited until the cpu had calmed down, figuring my model would then reappear. And waited. And waited.
No model."
Do you mean Hard drive?No, I meant the CPU. I have a small program that monitors the activity of each core of my CPU
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@jgb said:
Welcome to the "seniors club" and an extra 10 points.
Hey, I'm only 12 years old (mentally)
Actually it would only take a few seconds to Google it and come up with the info. Unfortunately, I didn't have to Google it
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This discourse could inspire a request for a script. One that would highlight or put a target on widely scattered stuff, and the target would scale relative to the camera distance from the objects, so that you could inspect, edit, delete, move, etc.
"Highlight remote objects", or "Mark remote objects". You can do this in Autocad, because the blue "grips" scale with the camera.
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