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      rumcajs
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      I had a dream about SU during I slept (Yes, I work during my sleep!). It was that I could draw soft edges or smooth edges directly. I realized, that I don't know if is it possible? Acually I don't know much about soft edges, I've just look for help and found Soft edges dialog box:
      http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=114940
      But where can I found this box? I had seen it somewhere days ago.

      Next thing I have in my brain now is that, it could be good if we could have a mode for interference for segments. For example, I want to find some segment and must click it before I can resize/rescale it. Would not be much better to click directly on the ends of segment? Just idea.

      I did not yet check the last plugin.

      Here is the file:


      human body v6.skp

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        Gaieus
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        @rumcajs said:

        ...Yes, I work during my sleep!...

        Interesting. I have something similar: I sleep during my work! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

        @unknownuser said:

        ...It was that I could draw soft edges or smooth edges directly...

        Maybe with this plugin? http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=37359

        Gai...

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
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          The box is here :Menu WIndow / Soften edges ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Else subdivision modeling for Sketchup is here ๐Ÿ˜‰
          Artisan by Whaat (39$ )
          A free very basic is here by Rick Wilson
          or more recent with another concept by guitar list

          http://www.guitar-list.com/files/styles/article-pic/public/gearpics/Smooth-glass.jpg

          http://forum.zbrush.fr/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1622.0;attach=26902;image

          All for segments and vertex is here : Vertex Tools by Thomthom (20 $)

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            pilou
            last edited by

            About the neck
            Why do you say that is not more part of the body ?

            @unknownuser said:

            but it did not connect with the body already. How to connect it?

            Seems it is ๐Ÿ˜„
            In front view inside the level of the group / component
            Just make a box selection from right to left (so else who touch this box is selected) on the "cone neck"
            then right click / reverse faces

            When you move a segment of the neck it moves also the body, so it's makes part of the body ๐Ÿ˜„

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              rumcajs
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              The color. Why the neck has blue color and the body is white?

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              • numbthumbN Offline
                numbthumb
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                Reversed faces.

                Comfortably numb...

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  Yep reverse face : blue can't receive the light of sun (so internal faces - backface)
                  White = receive the light of sun (so external faces)

                  Useful for the render program !

                  If you select one face of a volume* then right Click / Orient faces (different than Reverse faces !!! )
                  all faces of the volume will take the "work's color" (blue or white) of the first face clicked!

                  • if the volume is well built ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    rumcajs
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                    I've got it.

                    Any suggestions how to correct shoulders muscles, up on collar bone? So called posterior lateral triangle of Trapezius muscle? This is the muscle which leads from top of shoulder up to neck.

                    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QSWjVVJqt0k/T_W7sQDyQJI/AAAAAAAAA0E/rkmUw573Jis/s1600/8_31_10-shoulder+muscles.jpg

                    Also I tried the Cross Section tool to add a circle bellow neck from Tgi3D, but it writes to me: Cannot resolve cross section. This is after I reversed the neck faces. I don't know if it is the cause, because this should not have effect. I click just outside the neck. Try.

                    Question:
                    Do you know some video tutorial how to model head from the sphere or oval? This head does not look good at all. I don't need to model face, but just the main proportions of the head.


                    human body v6.skp

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                      rumcajs
                      last edited by

                      Q: When I try to rotate arms, should I rotate it outside or inside model? I see my model's arms are not exactly in same (mirrored) position.

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        If you want really sculpt anatomy, maybe Sketchup is not the best tool for that ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        of course you can use the Vertextools but...it's "old school" polygon sculpting! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        [flash=560,315:uck4kicz]http://www.youtube.com/v/xfM02PleFMg[/flash:uck4kicz]

                        Try more Sculptris, a free crazzy one !

                        Or if you want more elaboate body in SU use the Free Make Human and imort it inside SKetchup ! โ˜€

                        That is the method of Orgelf! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Q: When I try to rotate arms, should I rotate it outside or inside model?
                          I see my model's arms are not exactly in same (mirrored) position.

                          If it's component themselves : rotate it outside the component else all other componant (mirrored) will rotate also!

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Also I tried the Cross Section tool to add a circle bellow neck from Tgi3D,

                          I have not this one so can't answer ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Any suggestions how to correct

                          add some segments and move them but it's very difficult work!

                          About video
                          type sculpt face modeling in youtube ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          or this one ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                            rumcajs
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                            Yeah, that is exactly that case as I mention here:
                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=47752

                            That when I rotated the arms (outside of component), they were not correct (same angles), but I did not see that. Even now after correction, they are not on 100% same angles. I would like to see some plugin for situation like this.

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                              rumcajs
                              last edited by

                              You are right, I have seen this and they use mirroring function.
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFqopkUTO0Q&feature=relmfu

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                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                they are not on 100% same angles. I would like to see some plugin for situation like this.

                                No need of plugin for that ๐Ÿ˜„
                                Just take this who is in good position then make a "scale -1" in the direction wished!

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  rumcajs
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Q: When I try to rotate arms, should I rotate it outside or inside model?
                                  I see my model's arms are not exactly in same (mirrored) position.

                                  If it's component themselves : rotate it outside the component else all other component (mirrored) will rotate also!

                                  Sure I did so. But it is rotation like in y1=60ยฐ; y2=-60ยฐ; x1=13ยฐ; x2=-13ยฐ; and so ... it is mirrored...

                                  So when I started to rotate the arm, so I had to rotate 1st arm and then the 2nd arm. So there is result that they are not same angle. Because I did not check the angle, when I started to do it. Now it looks like it is better then it was before.

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                                    rumcajs
                                    last edited by

                                    I rotated head and removed the sides because they were deformed. I try to close the head now but when I draw the circle so it does not fit. Do you have idea why and what to do with it?


                                    human body - head v6.skp

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                                      rumcajs
                                      last edited by

                                      Or better I should take the ovalish head first and scale it to make rounded head... But how to fix that. Sizes are 0,23x0,21m and I want 0,23x0,23. But with tape I can only change the scale with ratio 1:1...

                                      http://i50.tinypic.com/70c014.png

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                                        rumcajs
                                        last edited by

                                        True, I don't know why I did not think about that (scale one direction). It should work. I'll test tomorrow.

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          Scale tool by one direction ?
                                          Draw a line with the good measure for snap on it

                                          About the close circle in the file you post
                                          Just draw a diameter ๐Ÿ˜„
                                          That close it !

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                            rumcajs
                                            last edited by

                                            http://i50.tinypic.com/2nlztxi.png

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