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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      @brookefox said:

      Gimme a model?

      you can make up your own dimensions as they're not (entirely) important.. (it's mainly about getting the parallel lines of the pink board in there like that)

      [EDIT] oh wait, the width_of_ board dimension is critical but you can make that dimension up if you want.. you just have to choose what it is first then draw it..

      but here's a starting model anyway..

      mini__.skp

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        ninopiamonte
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        Can you give something more details about this challenge?

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
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          @ninopiamonte said:

          Can you give something more details about this challenge?

          you mean like prizes and stuff?

          this is a fairly common situation in framing when an X-brace is required.. often, you're able to just trace them onsite but other times you can't (other walls in the way etc..).. either way, it's nice if you just have the right dimensions in the first place..

          another example of the same problem.. (2x4 wall frames connected by a brace)

          mini2.jpg

          so the the challenge is for you to show your technique (probably via screenshots, .skp, or video) showing the best way you can come up with to draw the brace board in order to obtain proper dimensions for it.

          [and i'll act as the judge πŸ˜† ]

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            Still not getting it... too early in the morning - haven't had my tea yet. 😳

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              My little try πŸ˜„

              Chall.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
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                @unknownuser said:

                My little try πŸ˜„

                [attachment=0:259w4kne]<!-- ia0 -->Chall.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:259w4kne]

                in step 2, how do you know where to draw the line ? (at which height ?)

                like i said earlier, your board has to be a predetermined width…

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  It was made step 3 πŸ˜‰

                  But if you want better πŸ˜„

                  Chall.jpg

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
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                    @pbacot said:

                    I just draw a 2x4 and rotate it then cut with two uprights...?

                    doesn't work… (unless you're just sorta eyeing it into place.. but this isn't horseshoes πŸ˜‰ )

                    that's why this is tough

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      It's implicit at my new version above
                      You have caltulated before the good rectangle for have the good result πŸ˜‰

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        It was made step 3 πŸ˜‰

                        thisway.jpg

                        [ie--- the board is a set thickness.. it will always be the same.. the part you're measuring will constantly change depending on the gap and height (angle)..]

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
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                          I just draw a 2x4 or whatever and rotate it then cut with two uprights...? I did that today in a trellis design.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            Does it has to be drawn correct in the first place?
                            I was thinking, drawing the profile of the board in the correct size, extrude, rotate it, taper off the ends. - too many steps?

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              It's implicit at my new version above
                              You have caltulated before the good rectangle for have the good result πŸ˜‰

                              ok.. i'll try to switch up the way i'm presenting the problem..

                              draw this:

                              (notice which way the 5 units are being measured.. if i measure 5 in the place you're suggesting, my board will no longer have a width of 5.. it will be too skinny)
                              mini3.jpg

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                This is an elaborate plugin request - right?

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
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                                  Well if you had a true arc or circle you could find your exact intersection points. But there are no true circles in SU.

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    Does it has to be drawn correct in the first place?
                                    I was thinking, drawing the profile of the board in the correct size, extrude, rotate it, taper off the ends. - too many steps?

                                    take as many steps as needed.. but for you, once you recognize the issue, you'll probably immediate think ruby as a means of solving it.. the way i do it is with a dynamic component.. there's a brute force method to accomplish it within sketchup itself but i'm wondering if i happen to be missing a method.. no solutions given so far will accomplish it..

                                    [EDIT.. haha.. re:your post while i was typing this one πŸ˜„ ]
                                    but no.. i didn't set out for it to be.. it's a pretty cool little challenge because of how simple it seems.. hopefully a plugin doesn't jump in too soon and spoil all the fun πŸ˜‰

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                                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                      jeff hammond
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                                      @pbacot said:

                                      Well if you had a true arc or circle you could find your exact intersection points. But there are no true circles in SU.

                                      right, that's the brute force method i mentioned above.. make a little arc with a thousand segments and it will work..

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                                        thomthom
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        @pbacot said:

                                        Well if you had a true arc or circle you could find your exact intersection points. But there are no true circles in SU.

                                        right, that's the brute force method i mentioned above.. make a little arc with a thousand segments and it will work..

                                        That sounds dangerous - most likely you'll get some minor accuracy issue somewhere ~0.00001 of whatever - something that eventually cascades into a nightmare! (thinking of all them imported AutoCAD plans I've had... x_X )

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                                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                          jeff hammond
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                                          @thomthom said:

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          @pbacot said:

                                          Well if you had a true arc or circle you could find your exact intersection points. But there are no true circles in SU.

                                          right, that's the brute force method i mentioned above.. make a little arc with a thousand segments and it will work..

                                          That sounds dangerous - most likely you'll get some minor accuracy issue somewhere ~0.00001 of whatever - something that eventually cascades into a nightmare! (thinking of all them imported AutoCAD plans I've had... x_X )

                                          yes.. that can happen and why i eventually went with a dynamic component instead (maths)

                                          for getting an accurate enough dimension for a framer to cut.. it's ok.. but to have something like that in a drawing where you may be inferencing etc for future parts of the drawing.. i agree, it's a no-no.. you can throw off everything else down the line..

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                                          • pbacotP Offline
                                            pbacot
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                                            From tip to tip you have length A-C the hypotenuse on the board. You know the width of the board B-C so you can find A-B. So when you have a board A-B long exactly you can rotate it with snaps then trim it, but is the rotate operation inaccurate?

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