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    Why is China America's friend, but Cuba isn't?

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    • StinkieS Offline
      Stinkie
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      Yeah. Not a fan of Castro's either (though I am on the left), but I think the US's embargo is absurd.

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      • Alan FraserA Offline
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        Yes, the embargo should have been lifted years ago. Just think of all those lovingly-preserved vintage cars you could get your hands on. πŸ˜‰

        Seriously, Ecuadorian is right...the given reasons are pure BS. Of course it's all about money, trade and local politics. Anyone with a non-US passport doesn't have a problem. Link

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        • StinkieS Offline
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          @alan fraser said:

          Seriously, Ecuadorian is right...the given reasons are pure BS. Of course it's all about money, trade and local politics.

          Yeah. And imagine what would happen to the US president who lifts the embargo. Not being re-elected would be the least of his/her problems, I think.

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          • soloS Offline
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            If we cannot break the trade embargo at least lets give them Coca Cola, they are one of three countries in the world that do not sell Coke. πŸ˜•

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            • Rich O BrienR Online
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              Wow, that is an odd stat. What are the other 2?

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              • soloS Offline
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                North Korea and Mayanmar (Burma)

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                • Rich O BrienR Online
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                  Recently there was an iPad app that had 100's of images from within N.Korea. It was truly boggling to behold. One image struck me which was of their first and only fast food restaurant.

                  Obviously what you saw above the counter to eat was exactly what you got on the plate.

                  I find it hard to grasp what it must be like to be in a situation where your every move is dictated.

                  At least Cuba is somewhat liberal. Or that's the impression I have.

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                  • DanielD Offline
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                    @solo said:

                    If we cannot break the trade embargo at least lets give them Coca Cola, they are one of three countries in the world that do not sell Coke. πŸ˜•

                    OH, THE HUMANITY!

                    Getting back to the original question, I suspect at least part of the answer goes back to cold war politics. Cuba was chummy with the USSR, perceived enemy of the West, one result being the Cuban Missile Crisis. Because of their close ties with the USSR, becoming friendly with Cuba was never really an option.

                    Although a communist country, China was never really on very friendly terms with the USSR, and it seemed natural to draw the one further away from the other; the process of befriending China has been going on for decades, starting with Nixon, and involved the gradual introduction of capitalism. You have to admit the China of today is different from the China of 30-40 years ago (Chairman Mao is probably rolling is his tomb).

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                    • EscapeArtistE Offline
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                      Cuba - commies with nothing we want.

                      China - commies that make our stuff cheaply so that corporations can make $$$.

                      It's all about money.

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                      • DanielD Offline
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                        To think a country's economy never factors in the Great Game of politics, no mater the size of that country, would be naive. But it wasn't/isn't all about the money. Idealogy and world influence played/plays a part, too.

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
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                          @escapeartist said:

                          Cuba - commies with nothing we want.

                          hmm.. maybe you've never tried their sandwiches?

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                          • soloS Offline
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            Cuba - commies with nothing we want.

                            They have awesome baseball players πŸ˜‰ Oh and great doctors too.

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                            • GaieusG Offline
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                              Great rum and cigars. πŸ˜‰

                              Gai...

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                              • soloS Offline
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                                @gaieus said:

                                Great rum and cigars. πŸ˜‰

                                We worked around that one, we get cigars from the Dominican republic (Cuban style) and rum from Jamaica. πŸ˜‰

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                                • GaieusG Offline
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                                  That's just workaround. πŸ˜‰

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                                  • soloS Offline
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                                    I'd like to see tourism opening up there, such a beautiful country with so much to offer.

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                                      @solo said:

                                      @gaieus said:

                                      Great rum and cigars. πŸ˜‰

                                      We worked around that one, we get cigars from the Dominican republic (Cuban style) and rum from Jamaica. πŸ˜‰

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                                        @daniel said:

                                        [Cuba was chummy with the USSR, perceived enemy of the West, one result being the Cuban Missile Crisis. Because of their close ties with the USSR, becoming friendly with Cuba was never really an option.

                                        How ironic it is, then, that today Russia is also in the UN Security Council, while the embargo on Cuba continues. Oh, and Russia is still a place where human rights are... well, not really right. And Russia does not make cheap electronics the West, so.... the question is still open. No, the question is now a bit longer. Why Russia and China, but not Cuba?

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Online
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                                          Cuba doesn't have nukes.

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
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                                            Russia has oil, gas, all sorts of other raw materials the EU is dependent on. Especially gas.

                                            Gai...

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