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    • boofredlayB Offline
      boofredlay
      last edited by

      Also, you have many elements that are not co-planar. The attached image - set of dashed lines for example are not on the same plane. The dashes are lower than the rest of the roof and walls.

      Note that small lines in SU will wreak havoc in a heart beat.

      Another suggestion would be to create a large plane then draw your lines on it. Having a surface to draw your 2d lines on will help prevent snapping to some arbitrary point.


      Dashes.jpg

      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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        PETE838
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        Great info. Thank you.

        Is there a way to "lock" all of your drawing into the Z plane? Or move your points in the Z (or x or y, for that matter) plane? I know in ACAD you can draw the line, then alter its start and end point coordinates in XYZ, or just draw it by entering the coordinates. Or maybe an add-in to flatten everything into the same plane?

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          mics_54
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          Is there a way to "lock" all of your drawing into the Z plane?

          @unknownuser said:

          Another suggestion would be to create a large plane then draw your lines on it. Having a surface to draw your 2d lines on will help prevent snapping to some arbitrary point.

          I think that is what drawing your sheet plane would effectively be doing. Each time you ad a line or other element you will get "On Surface" indication.

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            mics_54
            last edited by

            Boofredlay as an aside...if one is using 2D tools is it advised to mix in the standard textures rather than the 2D hatches?

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            • boofredlayB Offline
              boofredlay
              last edited by

              Pete, I don't know of a way to lock your drawing tools to a z plane. One way to be more sure you are drawing on a single plane is to do it in perspective mode and continually rotate around your drawing. I don't use SU for 2d much so someone else might weigh in with a better solution.

              As far as flattening your geometry when it goes South, you could use TIG's Flatten to Plane plugin:
              http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=281320#p281320

              Michael, I am not sure I understand your question.

              http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                mics_54
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                @unknownuser said:

                Michael, I am not sure I understand your question.

                I think that probably answers my question. πŸ˜†

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                • boofredlayB Offline
                  boofredlay
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                  @mics_54 said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Michael, I am not sure I understand your question.

                  I think that probably answers my question. πŸ˜†

                  Glad I could help πŸ˜„

                  http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                  • boofredlayB Offline
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                    Pete, I had a bit of time at lunch so I did a quick video of how I would go about a 2d plan like you are showing. Hope this helps.
                    Draw a plane, group it, use it as a canvas, delete it then finish up your plan.

                    [flash=853,505:32x4el71]http://www.youtube.com/v/Pmc-hJzqhl0&fs=1[/flash:32x4el71]

                    http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                      mics_54
                      last edited by

                      πŸ‘

                      but one question...how did you do the line extensions when doing the intersections for the hips and valleys?

                      I dont get the inference.

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                      • boofredlayB Offline
                        boofredlay
                        last edited by

                        Start your line, hover over the existing line then hold down shift. This will extend the line allowing you to reference another point on the drawing. Or start your line, move it along an axis and hold shift, again it will continue along that same path allowing you to reference another point.

                        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                          mics_54
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                          dang it i knew that!

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                          • boofredlayB Offline
                            boofredlay
                            last edited by

                            There is a more detailed explpaination on the GSU videos.
                            http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/training/videos.html

                            Under "Familiar with Google SketchUp" then "Google SketchUp Techniques: Inference Locking"

                            http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                              mics_54
                              last edited by

                              The screen capture video worked so flawlessly..what software is that?

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                              • boofredlayB Offline
                                boofredlay
                                last edited by

                                I use Hypercam2
                                http://www.hyperionics.com/hc/

                                Make sure you change the keyboard shortcuts (Hot Keys) because they can interfere with your SU ones and mess up your video. I found that out the hard way.

                                After taking the video I used Windows Live Movie Maker to add text and edit it. Then uploaded to Youtube.

                                Both Hypercam and WLMM are free.

                                http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                  mics_54
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                                  you rock πŸ‘

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                                    PETE838
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                                    That was astounding how quickly you did that. The same workflow for me takes 20 minutes. Thanks a million.

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                                    • boofredlayB Offline
                                      boofredlay
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                                      Thanks Michael

                                      Thanks Pete. Practice practice practice.

                                      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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