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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
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      The centerline-tunnel 'to Australia' adjunct to the original question is based on something of a false premise - see this http://www.freemaptools.com/tunnel-to-other-side-of-the-earth.htm
      If the tunnel has one end in Australia, and passes through the center of the Earth then the other end is in the Atlantic Ocean [although you could contrive it to be on one of the small islands somewhere near the center?]. Chances are you tunnel will flood... which raises an interesting question, because we showed that 'you' falling through the hole would not come out in Australia, settling around the center after a lot of oscillating about it... BUT 'water-finds-its-own-level' and would it not therefore fill the hole from rim to rim? Thus making a very deep salt-water lake in Australia [ignoring the heat/boiling issues etc as last time...]

      Using the map provided in the link you can see that making a centerline-tunnel linking two major population centers is quite difficult, because all of the flippin' water about ! It's limited to say Beijing and Buenos Aires, Saigon and Lima, Lisbon and Auckland, parts of Indonesia and northern South America etc... but the USA misses almost everywhere except for Hawaii which hits somewhere in southern Africa!
      If you were to go 'off-center' so as to link specific places, then you'll start to 'scrape' down the walls of the tunnel as you fall further in, as the Earth's center of gravity will exert an uneven pull off to the side nearest the 'core'. πŸ€“

      TIG

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        @tig said:

        I
        Note: if you were agile enough... on the first 'fall', just as you approached the other end and slowed to a standstill you could 'grapple' onto the tunnel's wall just below the rim, so with a little climbing 'up' you could pop out at the other end... but I suspect you'd be a bit knackered by then [if not dead] !!!
        πŸ€“

        There must be easier way to get to Oz 😲

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
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          @mike lucey said:

          @tig said:

          I
          Note: if you were agile enough... on the first 'fall', just as you approached the other end and slowed to a standstill you could 'grapple' onto the tunnel's wall just below the rim, so with a little climbing 'up' you could pop out at the other end... but I suspect you'd be a bit knackered by then [if not dead] !!!
          πŸ€“

          There must be easier way to get to Oz 😲
          Well it'd be better than flying 'Ryan Air' - where you'd fit in the seats better if you had both legs amputated and have to pay to use the loo πŸ˜‰

          TIG

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
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            @tig said:

            flying 'Ryan Air' ... have to pay to use the loo

            Do you? 😲

            Gai...

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
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              There was talk of it - just one loo per plane [so extra seats] and changing Β£1 to use it - but I'm not sure that they ever implemented it fully...
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048198/Ryanair-toilet-aircraft-plan-make-room-seats.html
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1263905/Ryanair-toilet-charges-phased-in.html
              http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/4861505/Ryanair-may-charge-1-for-toilet-use.html

              TIG

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                I understand that they do not supply (free) beverages and food and I would even support this on other flights to keep costs lower but charging for the loo is too much. And one loo per plane? What if someone has constipation (or diarrhea)? πŸ˜•

                Gai...

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                • Alan FraserA Offline
                  Alan Fraser
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                  Completely OT...but funny anyway.

                  [flash=640,390:1uc64bm6]http://www.youtube.com/v/ZAg0lUYHHFc?version=3[/flash:1uc64bm6]

                  So back on-topic; ponder what would happen if the moon suddenly disappeared.

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
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                    Oooh, good one!

                    Tides would stop?

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                    • Alan FraserA Offline
                      Alan Fraser
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                      That would be just the start of our problems. It exerts a gyroscopic stabilizing effect.

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                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
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                        Well, I'd imagine the missing stabilizing effect would cause our orbit to shift, maybe even lose orbit completely. This could mean our rotation is affected which affects everything. Having no tides has a huge wildlife impact.

                        You've just wiped us out Alan....well done

                        It's an interesting one though as I scurry off to google the answer

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                        • S Offline
                          Starling75
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                          @tig said:

                          If you were to go 'off-center' so as to link specific places, then you'll start to 'scrape' down the walls of the tunnel as you fall further in, as the Earth's center of gravity will exert an uneven pull off to the side nearest the 'core'. πŸ€“

                          ... and don't forget about conservation of angular momentum.
                          If the tunnel is not collinear with Earth axis of rotation, any object falling through the tunnel will be inevitably pushed against wall of the tunnel.
                          This effect will be strongest in a tunnel perpendicular to the equator.

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                          • A Offline
                            Aerilius
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                            Assuming that we are not falling through solid air... πŸ˜„

                            The air pressure should be around 1.88*10^11 bar, that is either super critical or solid, I couldn't figure that out:
                            http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=phase+diagram+of+air

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                            • utilerU Offline
                              utiler
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                              @mike lucey said:

                              @tig said:

                              I
                              Note: if you were agile enough... on the first 'fall', just as you approached the other end and slowed to a standstill you could 'grapple' onto the tunnel's wall just below the rim, so with a little climbing 'up' you could pop out at the other end... but I suspect you'd be a bit knackered by then [if not dead] !!!
                              πŸ€“

                              There must be easier way to get to Oz 😲

                              Go via Indonesia, guys. There is a huge industry of smugglers taking thousands of refugees from the Middle East to Asia and put them on rickety old boat and send them our way..... they get intercepted by Border Control and sent to Christmas Island [detention Centre] for processing [which by the way costs the Australian tax payer millions each year!] and in time they get bought in the back door.....

                              The previous government had the right idea but when this bloody Labor government came to power they relaxed the policy and HELLO!!!, the boats came a sailin....

                              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                Everytime I see you talk about Oz politics I'm reminded of this...

                                [flash=600,450:27axgr11]http://www.youtube.com/v/aFV2QYsw9yo[/flash:27axgr11]

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                                • S Offline
                                  Speaker
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                                  How long would it actually take an object to get through? Shouldn't the trajectory be bent a little if you take in account the gravitational force of the moon? If there was a solar eclipse on the other end of the hole, would that be enough to get you through? If one end is in an ocean and the other on land, wouldn't that make a one heck of a whirlpool and a geyser? πŸ˜„

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                                  • andybotA Offline
                                    andybot
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                                    @aerilius said:

                                    Assuming that we are not falling through solid air... πŸ˜„

                                    The air pressure should be around 1.88*10^11 bar, that is either super critical or solid, I couldn't figure that out:
                                    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=phase+diagram+of+air

                                    apparently this is a frictionless medium (considering the speed with which Rich dismissed my answer πŸ˜‰ ) also perfectly aligned to negate rotational forces, etc.

                                    http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                      Your in my world now where trivial matters like fact are dismissed.

                                      What happens when you try to locate the position of the colour grey in 3D space? Is white at 0,0,0?

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                                      • andybotA Offline
                                        andybot
                                        last edited by

                                        grey is a line extending from white to black. 1,1,1; 2,2,2; 3,3,3; etc.

                                        http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                        • Alan FraserA Offline
                                          Alan Fraser
                                          last edited by

                                          Black would be 0,0,0; white would be 255,255,255.

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                                          Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
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                                          • chrisglasierC Offline
                                            chrisglasier
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                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            What happens when you try to locate the position of the colour grey in 3D space?

                                            The TREMULATION (as prophetised)?

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