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    Why vegans were right all along!

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    • Mike LuceyM Offline
      Mike Lucey
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      ..... I've had a long chat with my cook, she who must be obeyed! Pauline is healthy and has managed to maintain a correct weight (for her) for as long as I know her. She is of the same mind as many of you, a balanced diet with all kinds of food in moderation.

      As far as the live long pills goes, I think I will do some research also for alternatives. There is the world of information on the Net as we all know.

      Just an example! Its not human health related, its about my little buddy, Jock, a Westie. Jock broke out in a nasty rash on both his flanks (back side) last year one side was really nasty, raw and red. I could see it was causing him a lot of discomfort.

      I brought him to an experienced vet and he gave him the usual shot and prescribed some medication (tablets). They really did no good. I then decided to do a bit of research and discovered that Westies are allergic to yeast! This is the site, http://www.westiemed.org/health/malassezia/ He was not any way near as bad as some of those Westies but was getting there.

      I looked at his diet and cut out bread and other things with yeast and in no time at all it cleared up. He is now in tip top condition.

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        You are right Mike, to do the research but be sure to do enough of it and not just take a few articles on faith.
        I've heard that some people can read one book and then erroneously base their whole life on it.

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        • EscapeArtistE Offline
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          Good info to know, there are lots of books out there that describe the industrial food process. Fast Food Nation comes to mind, and it's information from these sources that has moved us toward vegetarianism. But, this information has moved is away from grocery store vegetables as well. The farming of vegetables entails a lot of chemicals, waste and pesticide overuse. And those chemicals don't just affect humans, but all animals and beneficial bugs that come into contact with it. Colony collapse disorder is thought to be attributable to the use of certain pesticides.

          So simply switching to eating veg is not necessarily the best answer alone.

          The answer is currently a trendy idea, but there are many benefits: go local. Join a local co-op, buy from local farms that grow organic, use integrated pest management (they only spray if they absolutely must), and don't dose their animals with drugs of every kind. Buy from a local farmer's market, you get to meet the people that produce the food and can ask questions about how it's grown.

          Lots of benefits to this. Supporting local businesses and not some faraway mega corporation, good for your community. You get better food. You know who grew it and that the animals were treated fairly and not warehoused in terrible conditions. Joining the co-op can also be fun as there are often social events and volunteer work that can be done, you meet new people or might have the opportunity to do a little work at the very farm your food comes from. Make new friends and get outdoors!

          We've reduced our meat intake to near zero for many reasons, including the above. You just feel better. And vegetarian doesn't mean bland, Mediterranean and Indian dishes are a great example.

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          • andybotA Offline
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            Also, see the movie "Food Inc." Support local farmers with your purchasing dollars/pounds/euros/ etc. who are doing appropriate-scaled sustainable agriculture. Give your money to them and not industrial scale agro-business.

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            • soloS Offline
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              Yeah, Food Inc was an eye opener, encouraged me to use local co-ops instead of the convenient chains for my fruits and veggies.

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              • EscapeArtistE Offline
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                I must confess, today I was part of the problem. We went to a local restaurant on a layover for lunch. Don't know why, but I ordered a Reuben sandwich. I expected a rather normal sandwich, the price was just over $7, so one wouldn't expect anything unusual.

                What I got was not what I expected. The sandwich you see is almost 12" from one end to the other. No joke. Not seen is the 8" long half-cucumber of a pickle hidden behind the sandwich There is no way in the world I could eat it, and took the rest with me. I'm going to have no wish for meat in the foreseeable future. No wonder there are so many fat Americans, so much food (and a drink) for $10 US. Unbelievable. This sandwich belongs on TV.

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                  @box said:

                  You are right Mike, to do the research but be sure to do enough of it and not just take a few articles on faith.
                  I've heard that some people can read one book and then erroneously base their whole life on it.

                  Yeah Ben, I've heard that also 😉

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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                    Mike Lucey
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                    Jeff, that sambo is like a doorstep. I'd bet there are at least 500+ cal in there!

                    Its very difficult to get the portions just right. Sometimes we could eat a horse and at others something light does the job. Maybe coffee shops / restaurants etc should add 'lite' meals to the list. They could even be more profitable for them! I imagine you would be happy enough paying $5 for half that sandwich? This would cut down a lot of food wastage also!

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                    • EscapeArtistE Offline
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                      A quick and easy way to adjust your portion sizes: Use smaller plates. We often use the 3/4 size plates that came with our set for meals. It makes whatever is in the plate look bigger. Works well.

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                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                        You re so right Jeff! I'm going to lock up all the large plates (12") and only have the smaller ones (8") in the kitchen.

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