Did a God or Gods create the universe? EDITED
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Off topic: Cornel, who do you favor in the Republican candidates?
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@ ’Solo’. I’m not an U.S. citizen.
Promote someone who has respect for God, for people and to himself (in a good way....)! -
I thought Texas was another country.
At least it felt that way when I lived there. -
@unknownuser said:
I thought Texas was another country.
At least it felt that way when I lived there.Oh yeah it certainly is, crazy place, strange people, but friendly and respectful, except for the religion and politics it's a brilliant place.
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No !
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@ ’Solo’. I’m a simple realistic Canadian, not a “strange fundamentalist”...
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fun·da·men·tal·ism (fnd-mntl-zm)
n.- A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism.
Seems to fit.
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“Seems to fit”, and does NOT..., because the ‘healthy’ meaning of that term is now degenerated... For many, being a Fundamentalist means to be narrow, fanatic, and so on.
I am just a Christian, without ‘tail’...!How about you, 'Solo' ?!
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‘Solo’, to believe in both, that socialists say and that atheists say, you have to be a great believer, a very religious guy,
manifesting faithful devotion... -
@ 'Solo'.
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Socialism “require beliefs”... You think you are your own god, and, by through your advice, your will, your energy, your time, your money, etc., you can help others, “when and where you can”... You are based on YOU, instead to be based on God...
In fact, Humanists, Illuminists, Socialists, Communists, etc., all think about the same (different ‘color’ only), and they do not realize that they are actually various forms of Apostasy, and Antichrist will bring them together, in one ideology, because he will come with the same slogans... -
Atheism is an huge illusion - everyone believes in something...
What you put in your first place, to be the most important, vital for you, that is your god...!
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so say i might want to be saved so i don't have to go to hell for a gazillion years..
can i still smoke weed and be on god's good list?
what about cocaine or heroin? are those too hard?
i mean i'm pretty sure booze & wine will be ok, right?or does that type of stuff matter to god?
i'm pretty sure i can murder someone(s) then accept jesus h. christ as my savior and everything will be ok.. so that part is pretty cool.
i'm not sure about the drugs though..just trying to see if it's worth it for me or not. thanks
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@unknownuser said:
‘srx’ wrote: “I don't think this is IF AND ONLY IF statement...”
“He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me, scatters.”, Jesus Christ said...
“I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”, Jesus Christ also said...
(Conclusion need not!)As I said Bible is open book. You have to read it between lines. Have you thought what does it mean to be with Him, and against Him? I don't think that non-Christians all go to hell. It is not what Christ would say. Or do you think he would? We are all "God's children". Many atheist are walking His path. Solo for example
He is trying to be good to others, as he would like others to be good to him. It sounds familiar. I think that Gods word is in our genes, it is hardware. The Christ was a perfect example, the Bible is a manual. -
Funny as something who is not established can produce so many posts
That is a truely creation from nothing!
Astonishing is not it ?
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that reminds me of the good samaritan
[ed] it's a software, srx. something like operating system
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@unknownuser said:
So I'm kinda like him
Pete, you've just had your Beatle 'Bigger than Jesus' moment.
Although, I did see you on the white phone to god at Basecamp....very inspiring stuff
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@unknownuser said:
@unknownuser said:
So I'm kinda like him
Pete, you've just had your Beatle 'Bigger than Jesus' moment.
Although, I did see you on the white phone to god at Basecamp....very inspiring stuff
Nah, not bigger than him, I'm sure he has many more twitter and Facebook friends than me.
But with exception of all the praying, god stuff, miracles and walking on water stuff (does ice skating count?) I believe I live my life according to much of his ideals, does that make me Christ-like?
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@solo said:
But with exception of all the praying, god stuff, miracles and walking on water stuff (does ice skating count?) I believe I live my life according to much of his ideals, does that make me Christ-like?
I know there's a handful of facetiousness here Pete but it's still an interesting idea. What ideals would you say you live your life by?
-Brodie
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@idahoj said:
What I do believe is that Man was created as a unique being, one possessing a soul, or spirit, if the term is more comfortable. We were created in the image of our Creator, not in the physical sense but in the spiritual one, for what is God, if not spirit?
i'm pretty sure we're on the verge of taking evolution into our own hands.. i'd say within the next 50 years (probably less), we'll have made a computer with a soul or spirit or whatever you want to call it..
i don't necessarily think we'll create an entirely new species.. what i do think is that we'll evolve ourselves by blending technology with our bodies.. which will eventually lead to a new species (though humans as we know us and the 'new' species probably won't be coexisting)..
point being, we're going to witness evolution firsthand and not at the hand of god.. (and if you open your eyes some, you'll already notice this happening)..
computers and our brains really aren't that much different anyways.. both are just some electronics bouncing on/offs around..
dunno, when i imagine the super advanced civilizations out there (you know, the ones that have been around for a few million years), i'm pretty sure they didn't just happen to be genius cave people from the get go.. they made themselves into what they are.. and humans are on the same track granted we don't nuke the earth before we can leave it or get hit by a crazy disease/giant space rock etc...
i guess this may sound too scifi for a lot of you but it's going to happen.. maybe not as i describe in this post but something similar.. where will god stand in all of this? honestly, i don't think the god myth is going to be able to survive it.. there will be a few sects of people that refuse to upgrade etc for a generation or two but after that, adios god..
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@solo said:
AI (artificial intelligence) is another great topic, I also believe we will one day create a machine that can learn and be autonomous, I guess we could say it would posses consciousness, would that be a soul?
dunno, i think AI is a misnomer.. i mean, intelligence is intelligence.. just because it's not human intelligence doesn't make it artificial..
but yeah.. another topic/another day..
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I love the new direction this thread is taking.
My opinion is that the blending of human and machine will be more subtle.
As nanomechanics develops, technology could become more organic and also make humans more suitable and compatible for technological updates.
This coupled with AIs could some day in the future make possible the creation of some unique, non-human, sentient beings. Whether they will become new species or not will depend on whether we will give them the ability or if they will want to.
In essence such a being would be almost immortal, what purpose would procreation serve?So...yeah no god in there
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