Did a God or Gods create the universe? EDITED
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@hieru said:
@unknownuser said:
Time for drinks then?
Sounds like a good plan to me
I'd be happy to continue the discussion if I thought it was going anywhere, but we've driven around the same block a few times already..............so it's probably as good a time as any to call it a day and restore our toolbar positions.
David, this question is totally unresolvable without some form of faith belief! But at the same time there are bits an pieces of information surfacing that are of interest.However both Pete and Brodie are showing that they know how debates are handled in a 'Corner Bar', they may be in at opposite ends of the argument but they will defend each other's right to debate as I will. Proper order! The only thing I would draw the line on is outright personal insults.
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@unknownuser said:
At any rate the thread seems to be dying of old age at this point anyhow, so no need to kill it
-Brodie
I have another one in mind that has been at the back of my mind for quite some time. Its sort of related to many of the current 'hot' topic ongoing here. I'll bounce it off and see where it goes.
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Done!
Should the State have the power to license child births?
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It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).
Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.
Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.--Roger
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Very good Roger
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@roger said:
It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).
Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.
Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.--Roger
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@elmer said:
Very good Roger
May be a new question, did god creates humour?Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!
Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!
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@roger said:
It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).
Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.
Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.--Roger
They must be Godlike, they even have songs written about them ...
(from a world famous -
- Belgium band)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCVQ654CiKM
(How do I embed a video ? tried several things but must of missed something)
Flapsy
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@mike lucey said:
@elmer said:
Very good Roger
May be a new question, did god creates humour?Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!
Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!
The other day my dog comes in and says, "Descartes walks into a bar in France and the bartender asks if he would like a Bud Lite, Descartes says, "I think not" and poof Descartes disappeared."
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@elmer said:
May be a new question, did god creates humour?
@mike lucey said:
Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!
Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!God didn't create humour, but created JOY, GLADNESS, etc.
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@unknownuser said:
God didn't create humour, but created JOY, GLADNESS, etc.
So he didn't create humor. At least there is something god didn't create.
What is this? Humor.
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Humour may be the work of the Devil. Mark Twain might agree.
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@michaliszissiou said:
So he didn't create humor. At least there is something god didn't create.
What is this? Humor.
How do you know all these cornel?God is not playful, comic, ironic, etc.
In addition, He gives us the full and eternal joy, not an occasional one..., not just a little and temporary ... -
@unknownuser said:
God is not playful, comic, ironic, etc.
In addition, He gives us the full and eternal joy, not an occasional one..., not just a little and temporary ...Ahhhh, come on Cornel! You must be joking! If, according to you, God created all things, he DID create humour! The jedeo-christian god of the Bible claims to have created man (Adam) in his own likeness!
Nearly all humans have some sense of humour .... but again, I often wonder about you at times
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Watched an interesting TV interview of Richard Branson, an agnostic. During the interview he quoted Gandhi a number of times. Out of curiosity I did a quick search and found Gandhi's Views On God
http://www.gandhi-manibhavan.org/gandhiphilosophy/philosophy_god_god.htm Well worth the read.Richard Branson also mentioned that he was just back from a conference of The Elders, independent global leaders working together for peace and human rights. He also joked that if he was around Bishop Desmond Tuto for much longer he feels he might be converted and the thing he admires most about Desmond Tutu is his great sense of humor!
The Elders is also well worth checking out, http://www.theelders.org/
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Yup, if there is a god, then he certainly gave us humour. If you think about it, humour is one of the few things we possess that other creatures can't really be said to. Other creatures certainly possess a sense of fun, but I'm not so sure they possess a sense of irony, sarcasm or self-deprecation. What they do possess is pretty much all our other attributes like happiness, anger, jealousy, hope, disappointment. It's unthinkable that the one thing we do possess that differentiates us from other creatures would not be god-given. If it wasn't, what use would he be?
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@unknownuser said:
God is not playful, comic, ironic, etc...
How dull.
That's not how I read the Bible. -
"But You, O Lord, shall laugh at them; . . . " (Psalm 59:8, NKJV)
... or how about example (in the Bible) of Jesus' sense of humour. Not exactly Paddy the Irishman, Paddy the Englishman and Paddy the Scottish man jokes but never the less ..
How did Jesus use HUMOR to teach about God?
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Well, one thing we are now certain is that Cornel has no sense of humour
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Jesus, 'Peter, you are the rock on which I shall build my church...'
A pretty weak pun on the fact that the name 'Peter' actually means 'rock' ! A connection we lost over time. But probably brought the house down in its time!!And of course God must have have a very weird sense of humor when designing love-making, basic-sex and the resultant child-birth - where the main bits you need to use are also used in eating/drinking/breathing/talking/urinating/etc and which are therefore also very near to the defecating parts too which hardly seems hygienic !
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