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    "We don't allow faster than light neutrinos in here"....

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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
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      A speedy conclusion who goes faster than the light speed itself! πŸ’š

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        notareal
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        ...or they still have a bug somewhere. Anyhow, my favorite theory is that neutrinos do jump in a another dimension and travel a shorter than expected route.

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        • Alan FraserA Offline
          Alan Fraser
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          They just cheat when no one is looking....Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. They ought to be renamed Cheetos. πŸ’š

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          • TIGT Offline
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            The simple issue is they can't tag one specific neutrino and measure its speed.
            They notice one leaving and have to make an educated guess about which one is it when it's arriving some distance away - using a 'wave front' approximation of several candidate neutrinos...
            This is clearly fraught with errors as they can never be sure that they have measured the exact same neutrino both times [they don't have name-tags!].
            BUT if they make enough measurements and get 'some on time', 'some early' and 'some late' arrivals and average them all out... and if then there are significantly more 'early arrivals' then they do seem to have found neutrinos that have 'skipped forward' somehow... πŸ˜•

            No one really said you can never travel faster than the speed of light.
            [In fact the whole Big Bang Theory assumes that in its first tiny fractions of a second that the Universe existed 'everything' expanded much much faster than that ! ]

            In effect, what the current thinking says is that if you are currently stationary [or most likely traveling well below the speed of light - even if you haven't noticed yourself whizzing through the Galaxy, you are!] then you can never accelerate up to the speed of light because the infinite energy/mass/tininess trap steps in... BUT if you 'start life' already traveling faster than the speed of light then there's no real issues... unless of course you want to decelerate down towards the speed of light, in which case the same infinite energy/etc trap kicks in...
            πŸ€“

            TIG

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            • Mike LuceyM Offline
              Mike Lucey
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              .... thanks TIG πŸ‘ That cleared it up for me πŸ˜‰

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                Original paper:
                http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1109/1109.4897.pdf

                Very complex experiment endeed..

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                  john.warburton
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                  Don't hold your breath - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15830844

                  Seems that there is reason to doubt the results after all.

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                    So when can we expect a render engine to start shooting neutrinos instead of photons? πŸ˜‰

                    Just that little bit faster I'd think.

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                    • Alan FraserA Offline
                      Alan Fraser
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                      @solo said:

                      So when can we expect a render engine to start shooting neutrinos instead of photons? πŸ˜‰

                      Just that little bit faster I'd think.

                      Yeah! but as neutrinos pass right through solid matter, the results would be completely blank....rather like most of my renders in V-Ray. 😒

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                        tfdesign
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                        @john.warburton said:

                        Don't hold your breath - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15830844

                        Seems that there is reason to doubt the results after all.

                        Yeah, but this is what they said the first time round. that's why they did it again. And they'll probably do it again, and again....

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