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      patrickbateman
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      How is their selection and how do the programs stack up against podium? I can get crazy fast ~1 minute excellent quality renders with podium and it is very easy, it seems to not be popular here though I wonder why.

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      • david_hD Offline
        david_h
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        And herein lies Ongoing Debate. . .The best renderer is the one you like, the one that's easiest for you, and the one that give you the results you want.

        (Like I know what I am talking about. . . πŸ’š)

        I have Podium, Thea, and TW and I stink at all of them . .. so they're all great!

        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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        • Rich O BrienR Offline
          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by

          Well, Podium was one of the first to bring NPR to SketchUp and it does a bang up job at it too.

          There's litterally tons to choose from out now. I'm basing my advice on customer support and content. The guys at Twilight are super helpful and offer one of the easiest to learn render apps around.

          It's not all about quick renders. A quick render app will more than likely give you shit results. Look around the gallery here to see the flavour of different engines being used. It's astonishing! If you already have Podium and want better results practice, practice, practice. Learn that app inside out. Apply that knowledge to your next choice and start again.

          Take Dave's advice also and don't stink at three πŸ˜‰

          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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          • EarthMoverE Offline
            EarthMover
            last edited by

            Point being...all render engines suck in the wrong hands.

            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
            Content Creator at Skapeup

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Also Podium is indeed around and there are people using it. I used to play with it (a much-much older version) some time 4 years ago. Of course I really sucked (did not really understand anything of rendering yet) but that wasn't because of Podium.

              I also love Twilight - probably I was already "mature" enough for that (and rendering at all) when I first got acquainted with it. I am still not a guru however but I have learnt to live with that. It's like when your feet stink and you cannot sit away from yourself... πŸ˜’

              And then of course, there are the more robust renderers, standalone studios etc.

              Gai...

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              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                It's like when your feet stink and you cannot sit away from yourself...

                @unknownuser said:

                Point being...all render engines suck in the wrong hands

                Some of the best advice I've read here in a long time πŸ‘

                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  I knew you'd love it, Rich! πŸ˜„

                  Gai...

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                  • david_hD Offline
                    david_h
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I am still not a guru

                    Who wants to be a guru anyway? . . . sitting on top of a mountain. .. living in a cave. . .Limited supply of Junior Mints. Hard life.

                    If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Who wants to be a guru anyway?

                      ....when you can be Mighty Mouse!

                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                      • david_hD Offline
                        david_h
                        last edited by

                        You Betcha!

                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                        • honoluludesktopH Offline
                          honoluludesktop
                          last edited by

                          Don't most render applications include "render ready lights" that can be inserted into SketchUp?

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                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
                            last edited by

                            I think he means the actual light fixtures. Most biased renderers have a pre-built spot, omni, ies or plane light, while most unbiased render engines use a material as an emitter, which the user applies to self made geometry. Personally I don't think having pre-made fixtures would be a deciding factor on purchasing a render engine. There are enough free fixtures around which alternative light sources could be added to.

                            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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                              patrickbateman
                              last edited by

                              I'm mainly comparing shaderlight, podium, twilight, and a couple others in this range and between shaderlight and podium I haven't really found any huge differences and they are the same price. I have just grown used to having a huge library of pre-made fixtures and it saves a lot of time lighting a model especially when the architecture is not the focus of my models.

                              Having 350+ light fixtures that are very well modeled and preconfigured with lighting that I can throw in is a pretty big bonus for me. There is also a nice selection of other high quality materials and components. It may not be a deciding factor for some people but when everything else is pretty much the same it might be.

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