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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Yes, basically.

      With the "motherboards" (I don't know where you found that old post though) I probably meant thah you can build a render farm without too much cost if you build some machines whose relevant parts are capable but they do not really need to have expensive peripherals.

      TT is more experienced in this kind of render farming...

      Gai...

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        With bare bones I mean simple motherboards which has graphic and network card built in - so you only need to plug in a CPU, RAM and a HD.
        Not sure if I can ti two motherboards in one case - doubt it. But I have seen some DIY solutions where people fitted a renderfarm inside an IKEA filing cabinet.
        We just went for a small formfactor motherboard and got a couple of smaller cases.

        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          rock1
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          okay, so it's not a good idea to install RAM more than 4GB specially for sketchup render on a 32 bit windows xp. actually i have an old hard disk 80gb. so, not willing to buy another hard disk for windows 7 64 bit as it will take a lot of space. ๐Ÿ˜† I'm planning to buy win xp 64 bit for a performance boost.

          But tell me would I need to buy new softwares as well?

          The softwares that I'm using that use up a lot of RAM are:

          %(#4000FF)[AutoCAD 2008
          CorelDRAW 12
          SketchUp 8 pro [renderers too]
          Photoshop CS3 extended.]

          are these compatible with windows xp 64 bit ?

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @rock1 said:

            okay, so it's not a good idea to install RAM more than 4GB specially for sketchup render on a 32 bit windows xp.

            No, a 32bit Windows will never be able to utilize more than 4GB RAM.

            @rock1 said:

            I'm planning to buy win xp 64 bit for a performance boost.

            Buy an 10 year old OS that is no longer supported by Microsoft? Even lots of applications are dropping XP support. I'd really not recommend anyone buying that. Bite the bullet and get Win7 - it really is a good OS.

            @rock1 said:

            I'm planning to buy win xp 64 bit for a performance boost.

            What performance boost are you expecting? Remember 64bit != is speed.

            @rock1 said:

            But tell me would I need to buy new softwares as well?

            32bit software can be run on 64bit OS. The only thing that won't work is drivers - 64bit OS requires 64bit drivers. (And this is where I suspect Win7 got better support.)

            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              rock1
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              microsoft has support for windows xp. i update my windows regularly. what kind of support are you talking about? Man, i would need to buy a new hard disk too. my current one is 80gb sata. ๐Ÿ˜† Don't have much money to spend ๐Ÿ˜†

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                It has gotten End of Life declaration: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/products/lifecycle
                Mainstream support ended in 2009 - though extended support is still active, until 2014. But as I mentioned, software developers are starting to drop support as well.

                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  rock1
                  last edited by

                  ๐Ÿ˜ž . so i'll have 2 buy a new hard disk. ๐Ÿ˜ž but how come i got my updates? maybe i had an old cd so got updates. haven't received any updates alert in few days.

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                    Aerilius
                    last edited by

                    Support ended 2009, that means Microsoft is not anymore obliged to provide any new features or Service packs or bug-fixes.

                    The fact that you still get updates is because they only fix serious security vulneribilities (no other bugs), which is still too often the case.

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                    • AnssiA Offline
                      Anssi
                      last edited by

                      XP 64 is already a problematic OS. Try, for instance, to find a security package that supports it - the major players like Symantec or F-secure don't. It's not anymore a supported OS for Microsoft Office either, you have to use workarounds to be able to install it. And it's slower than Win7.

                      Anssi

                      securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                      • R Offline
                        rock1
                        last edited by

                        @anssi said:

                        XP 64 is already a problematic OS. Try, for instance, to find a security package that supports it - the major players like Symantec or F-secure don't. It's not anymore a supported OS for Microsoft Office either, you have to use workarounds to be able to install it. And it's slower than Win7.

                        Anssi

                        I'm currently using ESET smart security 4. it has both 32 bit and 64 bit versions. xp 64 slower than win 7? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ . i thought a lighter OS would be faster than a heavier OS.

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                        • N Offline
                          numerobis
                          last edited by

                          i have xp64 running on my render nodes and it's working great!
                          It is NOT slower than win7 and it consumes LESS memory than 7. Which is good for rendering large scenes.
                          I have Kaspersky IS running on them for years without any problems - no workarounds!

                          The only thing that can be problematic with xp64 is the printer driver support and pdf writer compatibility because it installs some kind of printer too.

                          But if you need it for a workstation i would take win 7 x64 because it "feels" much better. I have 7 x64 running on my workstation (24GB) and macbook pro (4GB) ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            rock1
                            last edited by

                            i don't care about the look ๐Ÿ˜† my printer is supporting winxp 64 bit. i think i should go 4 win xp. will save disk space too. donno the place where i can buy this OS. ๐Ÿ˜†

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                              numerobis
                              last edited by

                              it's not only the look... it's more comfortable and has some useful features - e.g. better wifi- and network support.
                              If you wan't to buy a new license now for aworkstation, i would say get win 7 x64! Better take some more Ram if you need it - it's cheap now! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              • sketch3d.deS Offline
                                sketch3d.de
                                last edited by

                                XP is a dead end road.

                                W7 needs ~1gb working memory instead of the ~512mb of XP, nothing one should care of on a 4gb+ system.

                                if you wanna use XP64 anyhow, check that drivers for every piece of hardware you are using are avail before buying it...

                                @rock1 said:

                                ...save disk space...

                                who cares?

                                Norbert

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