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    • frascatiF Offline
      frascati
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      Just a minor irritation. I can't seem to find out what buttom I'm accidentally clicking to lose this.
      The window bar at the bottom of the screen that shows meausurement among other things. Often it will just dissappear seemingly randomly and I can't figure out how to get it back.

      Another minor annoyance is that when using the measuring tool, I never seem able to learn just what sequence enables the "rescale the entire?" or just take a measurement.

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        Do you have the drawing window maximized? If not, perhaps the window is getting moved enough or resized to allow the bottom part of it to drop below the bottom of the screen.

        As for the Tape Measure tool, if you simply measure by clicking on endpoints, that's all you get is a measurement. If you type a value after clicking on two points in succession, and then hit Enter, you'll start the resizing process. If you don't want to resize, don't type. Does that help?

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        • thomthomT Offline
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          View > Toolbars > Measurements

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
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            You might find it's the CTRL key. Check for a small + next to the measure tool.

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            • frascatiF Offline
              frascati
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              @unknownuser said:

              View > Toolbars > Measurements

              Thank you. But I hadn't overlooked that. I've never quite understood what that option is for. There is a default measurement window at the bottom right of the screen already in Sketchup Pro 7. When I enable "toolbars > measurements" all it does is move that window to the left hand corner of a whole new info bar that eats up more of my screen space. Does it provide any more use than the measurement box that is already in the lower right hand corner?

              In any case, the missing measurement box (bottom right default one) turned out to be a silly oversight. You were correct. I had a slightly minimized window. It was so slightly minimized that only the bottome was missing, so I overlooked that possibility. Each time I reopened a new model, Sketchup continued to open a minimized window just like the last model closed. I clicked on the "Restore Down" button and it fixed it. Funny, I never noticed that it was called "restore down". Always thought it was just restore.

              @unknownuser said:

              As for the Tape Measure tool, if you simply measure by clicking on endpoints, that's all you get is a measurement. If you type a value after clicking on two points in succession, and then hit Enter, you'll start the resizing process. If you don't want to resize, don't type. Does that help?

              The majority of the time that I am typing a value is to establish a point. If I wish to establish a point exactly 3.25 inches along a given line, I will begin the measurement along that line, enter 3.25, and then enter, most of the time the little dot marker will appear at exacty 3.25 inches along that line. The scale of the entire model is not changed. Occasionally however, for reasons that I'm never entirely sure of, instead of establishing a point along the line, I will be asked instead if I wish to rescale the entirety.

              I was under the impression that you had to drag the measurement tool from one previously established point, to another previously established point, (both ends of a given segment in the model) in order to summon the resizing feature. But often it just seems to randomly pop up even when trying to simply establish a new meausurement point in the model.

              So I must be pressing some keys out of sequence somehow. I just can't figure what I'm doing wrong. In most cases, I simply retry exactly what I had tried, initiating the measurement along a line and then typing in 3.25, and it puts a point exactly 3.25 inches along the line instead of asking if I wish to resize the entire model like it did just the moment previous. Seems like I'm doing the exact same thing, but I must be mistaken.

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                @frascati said:

                @unknownuser said:

                View > Toolbars > Measurements

                Thank you. But I hadn't overlooked that. I've never quite understood what that option is for. There is a default measurement window at the bottom right of the screen already in Sketchup Pro 7. When I enable "toolbars > measurements" all it does is move that window to the left hand corner of a whole new info bar that eats up more of my screen space. Does it provide any more use than the measurement box that is already in the lower right hand corner?

                If you enable Toolbars>Measurement you can move the box to the top of the window or where ever else you want it. Having used SketchUp for so long before that option was available, I just use the default box. Otherwise I would always be looking in the wrong place.

                @frascati said:

                In any case, the missing measurement box (bottom right default one) turned out to be a silly oversight. You were correct. I had a slightly minimized window. It was so slightly minimized that only the bottome was missing, so I overlooked that possibility. Each time I reopened a new model, Sketchup continued to open a minimized window just like the last model closed. I clicked on the "Restore Down" button and it fixed it. Funny, I never noticed that it was called "restore down". Always thought it was just restore.

                Glad that sorted it.

                @unknownuser said:

                As for the Tape Measure tool, if you simply measure by clicking on endpoints, that's all you get is a measurement. If you type a value after clicking on two points in succession, and then hit Enter, you'll start the resizing process. If you don't want to resize, don't type. Does that help?

                @frascati said:

                The majority of the time that I am typing a value is to establish a point. If I wish to establish a point exactly 3.25 inches along a given line, I will begin the measurement along that line, enter 3.25, and then enter, most of the time the little dot marker will appear at exactly 3.25 inches along that line. The scale of the entire model is not changed. Occasionally however, for reasons that I'm never entirely sure of, instead of establishing a point along the line, I will be asked instead if I wish to rescale the entirety.

                I was under the impression that you had to drag the measurement tool from one previously established point, to another previously established point, (both ends of a given segment in the model) in order to summon the resizing feature. But often it just seems to randomly pop up even when trying to simply establish a new meausurement point in the model.

                So I must be pressing some keys out of sequence somehow. I just can't figure what I'm doing wrong. In most cases, I simply retry exactly what I had tried, initiating the measurement along a line and then typing in 3.25, and it puts a point exactly 3.25 inches along the line instead of asking if I wish to resize the entire model like it did just the moment previous. Seems like I'm doing the exact same thing, but I must be mistaken.

                If you click on one point and then another and then type the distance you'll get the option to resize the model or the active group/component. If you click, hold and drag (but avoid hitting a second point such as an intersection or endpoint) or if you click, release and type you will set a guidepoint at the end of a finite guideline. One thing you can do to avoid the difference is to set guidelines instead of guidepoints by clicking on a line (edge, axis or guideline).

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                • frascatiF Offline
                  frascati
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                  See below.

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                  • frascatiF Offline
                    frascati
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                    Ok, I believe it is the ctrl function. For some reason this is really doing an end run around my logic skills. And if you ever watched the program, you'd know that that's pretty much all I got going for me. So pray for me here.

                    "select point of edge to measure from. CTRL = toggle create guides. Enter value to resize model."

                    I drew a line. Pressing CTRL places or eliminates the "plus" sign next to the cursor.
                    Beginning without the "plus" sign, I drag the cursor and when I next I next click, the plus sign appears. I enter a value and am asked If I wish to resize the model.

                    Beginning with the plus sign, I drag the cursor to a point, still have the plus marker, click, enter a value and enter,and get a reference dot at that value. Perfect. Figured it out!

                    However... I go back to the beginning of the line, make sure that I have the plus sign next to the cursor, drag to a point, still have the plus marker, enter a value and enter, and am now asked if I wish to resize the model. I did it exactly the same as I had the previous time, but this time sketchup thinks I want to resize?

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                    • frascatiF Offline
                      frascati
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                      Ok, did I finally wear out my welcome with this post? Am I so bone stupid that I'm just getting ignored?

                      Would anyone simply try this with a single line segment in a new model and get back to me with the, no doubt, four neuron maximum instructions on what I'm doing wrong?

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
                        last edited by

                        Click, click and type, gives you resize model.

                        Click and type gives you a guide point at the typed position.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          @frascati said:

                          Ok, did I finally wear out my welcome with this post? Am I so bone stupid that I'm just getting ignored?

                          Would anyone simply try this with a single line segment in a new model and get back to me with the, no doubt, four neuron maximum instructions on what I'm doing wrong?

                          Don't think because I didn't reply that I was ignoring you. Shortly after my last post I got in the car to make the drive to my father's house. Since the OM won't be needing a house anymore, we gotta get busy cleaning it out so we can sell it.

                          As I already wrote, if you don't stop on the second endpoint and you don't make the second click, it won't offer to scale. When you enter the distance it'll put the guide point out there.

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