Please help me to learn to make this
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Hello everyone, im new in this forum..still learn the basic. i found furniture model in the net, and really love it.. i want to learn how to make that furniture. here i post the picture. i hope i don't make a mistake here by trying to learn to make it from the picture. im very lack of knowledge in sketchup also in design. but really want to learn. feel free to suggest or info me what to do.
sorry for my bad english...hope you can help me..gbu everyone..
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Okto, why don't you show us what you have so far, where you get stuck or need a hint to create a specific part and we will help as best we can.
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You could try downloading a few models from here:
They are well drawn, and should show you how a piece of furniture goes together.
Remember to keep the individual parts as groups and components, and then use the move tool to separte/attach the parts. Take individual parts and try to draw copies using the construction tools.
There are many good tutorial videos on YouTube. I would recommend the Toolbar series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfANG06Bieg
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
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Yes, the basic shapes of this bed are not hard to model at all. You should start simple (and not model the more organic parts first - they can be added later). This way you already have some success at the beginning which, in my opinion, is very important to make you feel more comfortable.
As Pete says, start with something and keep posting here. Then we can help better.
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Okto, are you trying to learn both SketchUp and woodworking? Are you considering building a rendition of this bed out of wood? I think Csaba's suggestion to get the basic bed drawn first is a good one. Then work on the details. Bob's suggestion to use components and groups is also a good one. (I would only use components) Draw each part as it would be made in wood. Don't worry about drawing joinery. That can be done later. I would add the recommendation that you draw all the parts in place. After you establish the locations of the bed posts, draw everything else to fit in between. Much easier to draw the parts correctly and less chance for errors that way.
Show us what you've got so far and we'll go from there.
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@ Solo: ok Solo now im making ( or try to make as close as i could) i will post it soon i finish draw it.
@ Watkins : yes, there's a lot of model in google warehouse. but i want to learn how to make it. not just place object to the layout or space.
one things for sure this forum is the reason i love Sketchup and design/ architecture.
thanx for the link. is it very useful for me.@Gaieus :
.. haha it's makes me more realize that this forum will give me a lot of education of Sketchup and design when u say the model is basic...now im very eager to grow.thanx for your motivation...@Dave R : Thanx for your tips. never though of that. i usually draw in all in the same.few i used group. maybe this is the first time i try to use component.
. soory for my very basic knowledge. answering your question is yes to all. i want to draw it and render it. then woodworking it. really love to design. the problem is i can't do hand draw, dont know anything about proporsional of object, human dimension etc. but soon i hope could know all the basic thing i should know..thank you so much everyone for your respond. now im doing the drawing of that furniture. will reply it soon after i finish.( kinda hard acctually )
GBU evrybody.. -
Well, of course, there are some fine details. But eventually you can derive the whole bed into some basic shapes (like cylinders) and they are all repetitive elements so that's what I meant by "basic". Take Dave's advice and make all these repetitive elements into components. Here is a quick link to what components are (Mac version for you - and for version 6 - but there is no difference actually).
http://download.sketchup.com/sketchuphelp/gsu6_mac/Content/G-Entities/Ent-Component.htm
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Hello again everyone.. this is the best i can do so far, trying to draw the bed like the picture i send it.acctualy i feel shame to post it. but hope you all could help me what is the step i should fix.
- i dont know how to make the shape of the bed leg.
- i dont know how to make a mattrase/ bed.
- how to make the curve like for the headboard?
- and all the detail profile i give up so hard....
please freely to edit or give suggestion and next step for me.
i think it's going to be a long answer coz all im do is false..hahaha..
thank you everyone..
GBU...
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Okay, so far, not bad. Don't bother yourself with the legs yet - we have time for those. Concentrate to the current model.
Two crits so far:
- you used a lot of groups but instead, you should have used components. They are very similar in nature with some very big differences one of which in this current situation is that once you edit one instance of a component in the model, you modify the others, too while in case of groups, when you edit a copy of several similar groups, it will immediately become unique (and the others will not change.
Another useful feature of components is that SU keeps their geometry in mind only once so in case of multiple components in a model, you can save file size (there are other features, too, but those are no relevant here). - Another crit could be that do not leave back (blue) faces displayed. Yes, when you have a single plane object, of course, you cannot avoid back faces - unless you give a certain thickness to everything
So all in all, please, find your model modified a bit below. Groups are now turned into components (thank to TT's selection toys I think), back faces reversed and where there were single faces only, some (3mm) thickness added.
One more thing: is there any reason you do not upgrade to SU 8? I almost forgot to save it "down" for you to version 7 now and I cannot always be sure to remember - jsut like some others who would otherwise chime in...
- you used a lot of groups but instead, you should have used components. They are very similar in nature with some very big differences one of which in this current situation is that once you edit one instance of a component in the model, you modify the others, too while in case of groups, when you edit a copy of several similar groups, it will immediately become unique (and the others will not change.
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I'm still not clear on what your plans are for the model. Are you planning to use the model just to make renders and show nice pictures to your customers? Or are you also planning to create construction drawings to use in the shop? The end use as some bearing on how you approach drawing the model.
As Csaba says, you should be using components instead of groups. If you are planning on using the model for shop drawings, parts such as the bed rails need some thickness and need to be drawn as separate components. Like parts such as the long rails should be instances of the same component with one of them flipped to create a mirrored version.
Is this a small child's bed? Or is it supposed to be large enough for adults?
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@ Dave R : beside to learn of practicing the SU, yes i want to make bed like that.for my 4 months daughter. it's so rare in Indonesia furniture like that. so i think if i could be able to draw like that maybe it will lead me to next level of design and using SU. but still so hard to be able build it. even there's example pictures. i think i need to take a course.
any ideas where can i take course? it will be fine it if overseas. then i can bring my wife and daughter.hehe..
yes it's a childern bed.@ Gaieus : thank you gaieus. the reason i dont upgrade to su 8 is i still want to learn the basic first, if i already good enough. then i will upgrade it. just my opinion. yes thank you for your advice. i will learn it about the component.
i will post it after i try again to fix my modelling.
again sorry for my bad english..
thank you so much. this forum and your reply help me a lot..
GBU everyone
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