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    [Plugin] [$] Artisan (1.2.3) - Feb 28, 2014

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    • dereiD 離線
      derei
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      Well, mine seems different... a lot of UNDOs and ended up with mess...

      ice_video_20160104-023933_cut.gif

      DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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      • BoxB 離線
        Box
        最後由 編輯

        You do seem to have some problems, as you can see here it is pretty much instant.
        undo.gif
        Upload your component so we can see if the same thing happens for us or if it specific to your setup.

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        • dereiD 離線
          derei
          最後由 編輯

          Hmm, this is most troubling. What do you mean by "specific to my setup" ? What kind of settings do you reckon may influence Artisan's Undo behavior?
          I attached the component here.

          Thanks


          Component_85.skp

          DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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          • cottyC 離線
            cotty
            最後由 編輯

            No problem here with undo...

            click to animate

            my SketchUp gallery

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            • thomthomT 離線
              thomthom
              最後由 編輯

              What versions of SketchUp are you guys using? And what version of the extension?

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • cottyC 離線
                cotty
                最後由 編輯

                SU16-64 Pro, Artisan 1.2.4, Win10

                my SketchUp gallery

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                • pilouP 離線
                  pilou
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                  No problem for me SU 64 make 2015 Windows 8.1 Artisan 1.2.4
                  for this all following
                  iterations 1 undo iterations 2 undo iterations 3 undo iterations 4 undo

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • dereiD 離線
                    derei
                    最後由 編輯

                    SU 2015 x64 / Win7 x64
                    Have no idea what version of artisan... because I don't know how to check for the version. There is nothing in Artisan Menu to tell me the version (or I can't find it)

                    DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                    • Dave RD 離線
                      Dave R
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                      @derei said:

                      SU 2015 x64 / Win7 x64
                      Have no idea what version of artisan... because I don't know how to check for the version. There is nothing in Artisan Menu to tell me the version (or I can't find it)

                      But the version number is available in Preferences>Extensions.
                      Screenshot - 1_4_2016 , 8_31_11 PM.png

                      FWIW, I tried undoing a subdivide and smooth operation after running it on your file and got a Bug Splat. SU2016, Win 7 x64, and current version of Artisan.

                      Etaoin Shrdlu

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                      (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                      G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                      M30

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                      • BoxB 離線
                        Box
                        最後由 編輯

                        Same for me Dave, I was just about to post about it but got distracted.
                        Same Artisan version throughout.
                        Win7 64bit SU16 Bugsplat every time as soon as you undo
                        Win10 64Bit SU16 Bugsplat

                        However use SU15 on either machine and no issues.

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                        • thomthomT 離線
                          thomthom
                          最後由 編輯

                          This might be a result of changes made to the Observer system in SU2016. (At least the undo thing. Not sure about the BugSplats - crashes should never happen.)

                          Has anyone checked if there is an update to Artisan?

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • Dave RD 離線
                            Dave R
                            最後由 編輯

                            ThomThom, I installed the latest from EW yeaterday but I didin't check with Dale to see if he's got a newer version that hasn't been posted there. I sent the splat I got if it helps.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

                            %

                            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                            M30

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                            • dereiD 離線
                              derei
                              最後由 編輯

                              @thomthom said:

                              This might be a result of changes made to the Observer system in SU2016. (At least the undo thing. Not sure about the BugSplats - crashes should never happen.)

                              Has anyone checked if there is an update to Artisan?

                              My Artisan is also 1.2.4 (just checked) and I use SU2015, so any Observer Changes introduced in 2016 should not affect me. Still, the Undo is nod done in one go, but it undoes every single step as you can see in my previous post.

                              DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                              • BoxB 離線
                                Box
                                最後由 編輯

                                Yes it appears you have a different problem. Is your graphic driver up to date?

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                                • dereiD 離線
                                  derei
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  @box said:

                                  Yes it appears you have a different problem. Is your graphic driver up to date?

                                  What the graphic driver would have to do with UNDO stack? And yes, my graphic driver is up to date.
                                  Undo/Redo should be managed by SketchUp and many operations can be packed in one single UNDO step by the programmer of the extension.
                                  The only other thing that comes into my mind is another plugin that gives me hard time... but I have no time to investigate, as I have LOTS of plugins and the only way to discover this would be to test Artisan by adding one plugin at a time... you can see my problem here.

                                  DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                                  • BoxB 離線
                                    Box
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    You can disable half, then half, then half etc till you find it.

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                                    • dereiD 離線
                                      derei
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Well, after f*king-up all my plugins, some of them losing some settings (somehow they just don't seem to like to be disabled), I managed to find the guilty plugin: It was the LAYERS PANEL http://sketchucation.com/plugin/751-layers_panel

                                      Yup, great idea, good tool, dangerous tool... some dark creatures are lurking there in the deep, messing-up with the observers. I saw that the author made it publicly available... maybe someone will take it and improve it. Or maybe Trimble will think to use it to change the default Layers System after it.

                                      DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                                      • pilouP 離線
                                        pilou
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        Plugins are sometimes the best and worst thing! 💚

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • thomthomT 離線
                                          thomthom
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          @derei said:

                                          Well, after f*king-up all my plugins, some of them losing some settings (somehow they just don't seem to like to be disabled), I managed to find the guilty plugin: It was the LAYERS PANEL http://sketchucation.com/plugin/751-layers_panel

                                          Which version where you using? Are you sure you had the latest?

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • dereiD 離線
                                            derei
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            version of what? Plugins? I have the latest, as reported by Sketchucation Plugin Manager and Extension Warehouse.
                                            But now I just uninstalled the Layer Manager, as it causes more problems for me than helps.

                                            DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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