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    • C Offline
      cmoreink
      last edited by

      I bought the original SDS tool few years ago. I use it with my SU8 but since upgrading to SU2015 and installing the original SDS on SU2015 all icons are "green smiley faces" and I have no problem with that because if I point my cursor on one of the icons it tells me what tool it is but I want to upgrade to a new version with new tools.
      Q: how do I upgrade to the new version with new tools added?
      Q: will I have to pay for upgrade?

      ok, just went to extension warehouse and downloaded the new version. It says "free to use for 15 days... after a license must be purchased..." I also read it's free upgrade if I have the original one (I do) but with the original one there was no license, so how do I go about the free upgrade??? wi

      Problem, so I'm in extension warehouse>Atisan Oganic Toolset>click on download (directs me to same page with install button)>click on install (opens page with terms and conditions of use and sings me out)>checked accept terms and conditions of use>click confirm> and nothing happens.... ???

      Ok, got it πŸ˜„ but how do I register now (I have the original SDS, no registaration back then) the new Artisan tool?

      Thanks

      my portfolio

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      • dereiD Offline
        derei
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        One quick question: Artisan subdividing operation is not enclosed in start/commit operation? Each step is logged separately? I am asking this, because when I subdivide geometry and I need to undo it, it seems to have to do a lot of UNDOs, often ending somewhere in mid process of subdivision, having my geometry ruined, like parts missing.

        DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Seems not! Undo works fine! πŸ˜„

          GIF_undo.gif

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • dereiD Offline
            derei
            last edited by

            Well, mine seems different... a lot of UNDOs and ended up with mess...

            ice_video_20160104-023933_cut.gif

            DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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            • BoxB Offline
              Box
              last edited by

              You do seem to have some problems, as you can see here it is pretty much instant.
              undo.gif
              Upload your component so we can see if the same thing happens for us or if it specific to your setup.

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              • dereiD Offline
                derei
                last edited by

                Hmm, this is most troubling. What do you mean by "specific to my setup" ? What kind of settings do you reckon may influence Artisan's Undo behavior?
                I attached the component here.

                Thanks


                Component_85.skp

                DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                • cottyC Offline
                  cotty
                  last edited by

                  No problem here with undo...

                  click to animate

                  my SketchUp gallery

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    What versions of SketchUp are you guys using? And what version of the extension?

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      SU16-64 Pro, Artisan 1.2.4, Win10

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        No problem for me SU 64 make 2015 Windows 8.1 Artisan 1.2.4
                        for this all following
                        iterations 1 undo iterations 2 undo iterations 3 undo iterations 4 undo

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • dereiD Offline
                          derei
                          last edited by

                          SU 2015 x64 / Win7 x64
                          Have no idea what version of artisan... because I don't know how to check for the version. There is nothing in Artisan Menu to tell me the version (or I can't find it)

                          DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            @derei said:

                            SU 2015 x64 / Win7 x64
                            Have no idea what version of artisan... because I don't know how to check for the version. There is nothing in Artisan Menu to tell me the version (or I can't find it)

                            But the version number is available in Preferences>Extensions.
                            Screenshot - 1_4_2016 , 8_31_11 PM.png

                            FWIW, I tried undoing a subdivide and smooth operation after running it on your file and got a Bug Splat. SU2016, Win 7 x64, and current version of Artisan.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

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                            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                            M30

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                            • BoxB Offline
                              Box
                              last edited by

                              Same for me Dave, I was just about to post about it but got distracted.
                              Same Artisan version throughout.
                              Win7 64bit SU16 Bugsplat every time as soon as you undo
                              Win10 64Bit SU16 Bugsplat

                              However use SU15 on either machine and no issues.

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                This might be a result of changes made to the Observer system in SU2016. (At least the undo thing. Not sure about the BugSplats - crashes should never happen.)

                                Has anyone checked if there is an update to Artisan?

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  ThomThom, I installed the latest from EW yeaterday but I didin't check with Dale to see if he's got a newer version that hasn't been posted there. I sent the splat I got if it helps.

                                  Etaoin Shrdlu

                                  %

                                  (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                                  G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                                  M30

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                                  • dereiD Offline
                                    derei
                                    last edited by

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    This might be a result of changes made to the Observer system in SU2016. (At least the undo thing. Not sure about the BugSplats - crashes should never happen.)

                                    Has anyone checked if there is an update to Artisan?

                                    My Artisan is also 1.2.4 (just checked) and I use SU2015, so any Observer Changes introduced in 2016 should not affect me. Still, the Undo is nod done in one go, but it undoes every single step as you can see in my previous post.

                                    DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                                    • BoxB Offline
                                      Box
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes it appears you have a different problem. Is your graphic driver up to date?

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                                      • dereiD Offline
                                        derei
                                        last edited by

                                        @box said:

                                        Yes it appears you have a different problem. Is your graphic driver up to date?

                                        What the graphic driver would have to do with UNDO stack? And yes, my graphic driver is up to date.
                                        Undo/Redo should be managed by SketchUp and many operations can be packed in one single UNDO step by the programmer of the extension.
                                        The only other thing that comes into my mind is another plugin that gives me hard time... but I have no time to investigate, as I have LOTS of plugins and the only way to discover this would be to test Artisan by adding one plugin at a time... you can see my problem here.

                                        DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                                        • BoxB Offline
                                          Box
                                          last edited by

                                          You can disable half, then half, then half etc till you find it.

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                                          • dereiD Offline
                                            derei
                                            last edited by

                                            Well, after f*king-up all my plugins, some of them losing some settings (somehow they just don't seem to like to be disabled), I managed to find the guilty plugin: It was the LAYERS PANEL http://sketchucation.com/plugin/751-layers_panel

                                            Yup, great idea, good tool, dangerous tool... some dark creatures are lurking there in the deep, messing-up with the observers. I saw that the author made it publicly available... maybe someone will take it and improve it. Or maybe Trimble will think to use it to change the default Layers System after it.

                                            DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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