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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      That's also what I suggested in that Help Forum topic linked above. If a renderer is working inside SU, it is always limited.

      Gai...

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      • fuzzionF Offline
        fuzzion
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        The holy poly trees available on the SU warehouse are designed to be used in very
        conservative numbers - maybe like 2 max. They are placed near the house to create a nice
        visual field. For almost everything else, meaning the background, i would either use 2d
        follow me trees or use a high resolution HDRI environment map, maybe a forest one
        from here http://www.hyperfocaldesign.com/hdri/hdr-environment-maps.html
        and wrap it around your house.

        You definitely need more than 2gb. Some of my Vray for SU models hit 3gb (hacked system - check
        Vfsu forums on how to do it) during the rendering process.

        Example of the HDRI being used in my vfSU render.
        !["Tri sci tor" house](/uploads/imported_attachments/dnrU_qk_render_1.jpg ""Tri sci tor" house")

        "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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          errror404
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          This might not help you... but my recomendations are:

          -1- Upgrade your computer (or at the very least your ram and run a x64 OS)
          -2- Get a different rendering engine like Maxwell, where you can load your 3d trees in Maxwell Studio and render from there.

          It has been a long time, since I rendered anything... but here is an example of Sketchup/Maxwell:

          http://work.leonardoschubert.com/img/Astorga Residence 03.jpg

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            Vicspa
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            Even my computer bogs down when using too many 3D trees, and I have 24Gigs of ram.
            So I use as many 2d trees as possible.
            I render with Podium that comes with a lot of it's own 2d trees and shrubs.
            Otherwise I use kerkythea.

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @unknownuser said:

              Even my computer bogs down when using too many 3D trees, and I have 24Gigs of ram.

              If the render engine is 32bit then you only make use of max 4 of those GBs.

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                Vicspa
                last edited by

                it's 64 bit, well my computer is, not sure about the render engine. I'm trying to get the company I work for to spring for Thea or Vray.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  it's 64 bit, well my computer is, not sure about the render engine. I'm trying to get the company I work for to spring for Thea or Vray.

                  V-Ray for SketchUp currently runs inside the SketchUp process, which is 32bit, which means you're limited to 2-4GB depending if you're running SU8M1 ($GB) or older (2GB).

                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    Vicspa
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                    Thanks for the info ThomThom

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                    • fuzzionF Offline
                      fuzzion
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Even my computer bogs down when using too many 3D trees, and I have 24Gigs of ram.
                      So I use as many 2d trees as possible.
                      I render with Podium that comes with a lot of it's own 2d trees and shrubs.
                      Otherwise I use kerkythea.

                      24gigs of ram. Wow. I remember the days not so long ago when my ram was 24mb and
                      that was pimp ! ๐Ÿ˜„

                      "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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                        MikMal31
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                        @ Gaieus :
                        thanks! ๐Ÿ˜„
                        and also thank for your help in the google forum,the ghost one does helps me to move quicker.

                        @ Brodie :
                        I will try to suggest my boss to upgrade the pc where I'm working =P
                        the problem is that my boss wants many big trees with lot of leaves around the buildings. and yeah it had crashed lot of time while rendering.

                        I will try to see the other renderers that you have suggested.

                        Thanks. ๐Ÿ˜„

                        @ fuzzion :

                        the project on which I'm working is a monastery with parkings and some buildings. I also have to add some other pine trees that surround the place.
                        I think i will have to use another renderer as suggested Brodie.

                        @ error 404:

                        woah very nice one error404 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                        I will ask my boss to upgrade my pc or else I will try to use maxwell.
                        Is it ok to use btw?

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                        • brodieB Offline
                          brodie
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                          Regarding Maxwell, I just wrote a lengthy bit about it, and some other render options, here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=34469&view=unread&sid=1dda3b06dbac7065fb8a42043dc492fa#unread

                          -brodie

                          steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            You may find it quicker to photoshop vegetation into the render afterwards in post, rather than spending large amounts of render time rendering environment vegetation that'll have much more polys than the actual building.

                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • fuzzionF Offline
                              fuzzion
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                              @thomthom said:

                              You may find it quicker to photoshop vegetation into the render afterwards in post, rather than spending large amounts of render time rendering environment vegetation that'll have much more polys than the actual building.

                              โ“ Can someone tell me how long it takes to photoshop-in vegetation and how long it takes one to learn photoshop to the extent that you could do stuff like that? Im itching to try photoshop but dont have a lot of time.

                              "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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                                Pixero
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                                Well, it's hard to say how fast anyone will learn Photoshop but I use it a lot to incorporate both people, trees and more. There is lots of ready to use cutout trees availble and after a while you'll want to photograph your own and make your custom library of images. Be sure to learn how to color adjust the images so they match the lighting of the render.
                                Here is a good place to start: http://vyonyx.com/category/tuts/
                                Great tutorials and also some trees and people for download.
                                Another thing. If you're serious about Photoshop you should get yourself a wacom pen. Makes life soo much easier in Photoshop.

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                                • fuzzionF Offline
                                  fuzzion
                                  last edited by

                                  @pixero said:

                                  Well, it's hard to say how fast anyone will learn Photoshop but I use it a lot to incorporate both people, trees and more. There is lots of ready to use cutout trees availble and after a while you'll want to photograph your own and make your custom library of images. Be sure to learn how to color adjust the images so they match the lighting of the render.
                                  Here is a good place to start: http://vyonyx.com/category/tuts/
                                  Great tutorials and also some trees and people for download.
                                  Another thing. If you're serious about Photoshop you should get yourself a wacom pen. Makes life soo much easier in Photoshop.

                                  Cheers for that. ๐Ÿ‘

                                  Long time ago, about 2 years, I bought a Wacom tablet for Sketchup after watching Ironman, but
                                  I realised the mouse was so much better ,plus i needed the money at university for Booze and smokes so i sold it. Should
                                  have kept it lol

                                  "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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