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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      thing is (chris&csaba), you can't change the shortcut blinter is talking about using the sketchup shortcut dialog.. the ctrl/cmmd shortcut is the same thing as using the middle mouse button to orbit with (as in, it doesn't actually switch to the orbit tool. it only orbits while holding down the keys but the selected tool stays active).. notice the temp orbit shortcut is two modifier keys which you can't assign via sketchup and i assume those options are hardwired into sketchup itself.

      there may be a way to change the shortcut via system preferences but i'll have to investigate that a little later.

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
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        @dave r said:

        With the center mouse wheeel/button and the Shift key you can get Orbit, Zoom and Pan. I bought the cheapest wireless mouse I could find for my MacBook Pro and it works perfectly.

        make sure to try the middle mouse button with the left mouse button.. this will pan as well eliminating the need for the shift key..
        (though this may be a bit weird to use under standard configuration.. i use a mouse that has thumb buttons -- one of which i have assigned as the mmb. i use my thumb for orbiting then the lmb along with it to pan.. actually very comfortable)

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
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          @blinter said:

          The question: Is there a way to change this Control + Command shortcut to Command + Option? If possible, this would increase my productivity tenfold, as I could easily orbit with my left hand while holding these two keys (which are next to each other) with my right, instead of awkwardly trying to orbit with my right hand.

          ok, so there is a way to do this but it might mess you up in other apps because this change is system wide..

          go: System Preferences-> Keyboard-> Keyboard-> Modifier Keys... -> (select keyboard) Apple Internal

          then reassign the modifier keys to have option act as ctrl and viceversa..

          i don't think it's possible to set this up to where it's app specific so those changes are going to happen throughout. maybe a 3rd party app can help here but i'm not aware of one.

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          • GaieusG Offline
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            @unknownuser said:

            ...notice the temp orbit shortcut is two modifier keys which you can't assign via sketchup...

            On my PC I can. Though admittedly I am quite unfamiliar with the Mac way...

            Gai...

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
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              @gaieus said:

              @unknownuser said:

              ...notice the temp orbit shortcut is two modifier keys which you can't assign via sketchup...

              On my PC I can. Though admittedly I am quite unfamiliar with the Mac way...

              really? you can make a shortcut using only modifier keys? try setting something to Shift/Ctrl for instance.. i don't think that would work even on PC but i could be wrong.

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                Sorry, seems to be a misunderstanding.
                😄

                I thought two mod key PLUS a normal one. Sorry!

                Gai...

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
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                  @gaieus said:

                  Sorry, seems to be a misunderstanding.
                  😄

                  I thought two mod key PLUS a normal one. Sorry!

                  i'm curious if the ctrl/cmmd thing works on windows.
                  the last time i remember seeing it referenced was on sketchup 6's quick reference card (which i can't seem to find anymore)

                  i think the ctrl/cmmd shortcut was made for macs with one-button mice as a way to orbit without using the actual orbit tool.

                  does it work on windows as well? (maybe ctrl/option or something along with the left mouse button?)

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                  • V Offline
                    Vicspa
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                    I'm on a PC both home and at work, both have windows 7 OS, at work I can orbit with my MMB, but not at home. Can anyone explain this????????

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      Victor, what kind of mouse are you using at home? Did you install the mouse drivers for it?

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                      • V Offline
                        Vicspa
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                        Hi Dave,
                        It's a wired Logitech mouse, orbiting with the MMB used to work once, but somewhere between SU7 and SU8 it stopped. now I gotta get used to hitting the O key and it's a PITA (pain in the a--.)

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
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                          Jeff, we do not have cmmd or option keys. What we have is an Alt key and a Window icon to launch Windows start(up) or what (I never use it). I cannot assign anything unless I include a "normal" key.

                          Gai...

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
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                            Victor,

                            I also have a LogiTech. True that I disabled its driver (and use whatever Windows sets for the buttons).

                            If you use the driver, make sure to assign a generic "middle mouse button" to the Scroll wheel MMB

                            Gai...

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                            • Dave RD Offline
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                              Try going to the Control Panel and opening the Mouse panel. Under Hardware, choose the basic Microsoft USB mouse option if it is there. Or do what Csaba says.

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                                Vicspa
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                                Will try, thanks guys

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                                • C Offline
                                  chrisjk
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                                  Jeff,
                                  I misunderstood too.

                                  But now I wonder if I should feel deprived - Ctrl-Cmd does nothing for me. The ony way I can invoke the temporary Orbit command is via the middle mouse button. However, since this is the only way I ever do it, I am not too worried!

                                  Chris

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                                    Vicspa
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                                    chrisjk, the MMB to orbit is all I want.

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                                    • C Offline
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                                      Victor,
                                      You might try this http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/ I use it instead of the Logitech drivers/programs which I have always had problems with on a Mac.

                                      I am using a Logitech mouse however - fairy simple one with a few extra buttons but not too many.

                                      Chris

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        I have a simple wireless Logitech mouse for my MacBook Pro. I opened the package, put a battery in the mouse and plugged the receiver into the USB port. No drivers installed or anything else. It worked properly with SketchUp and all other applications from the get go.

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                                          Vicspa
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                                          chrisjk, I checked out the site, unfortunately I'm on a PC.

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
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                                            @chrisjk said:

                                            Jeff,
                                            I misunderstood too.

                                            But now I wonder if I should feel deprived - Ctrl-Cmd does nothing for me. The ony way I can invoke the temporary Orbit command is via the middle mouse button. However, since this is the only way I ever do it, I am not too worried!

                                            Strange. Try it again.
                                            Press and hold control & command then click and hold the left mouse button. You should now be orbiting.
                                            It works on all macs I've tried it on and I use it a lot on my laptop. Fortunately, I use my right hand on the trackpad instead of my left 😄

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