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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Well, I think once you start building it, you could think about a GE version as well. Not too much extra effort as you model it anyway...

      Then look at this example of Aerilius where he made a version as it is now and as it used to be. He has some other, nice examples with interactive tours for the reconstructions, too. In that topic you'll find hints about how he created his artificial yet "convincing" materials for the reconstruction, too.

      As for the parts unknown for the time being - just model them in a way that can be easily changed later when you find out.

      Gai...

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      • MarianM Offline
        Marian
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        Thanks for the advice Gaieus.
        Aerilius did a wonderful job with such simple geometry.
        I don't have GE installed so I can't check but I found this model of the present day ruins on the warehouse. http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4d7bdc4fc264fafc8f8c90535e31623a&prevstart=0
        Unfortunately it can't be downloaded.

        http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Well, not a bad model but not the best I have ever seen either (more exactly, texturing is awful and since there aren't too many other details, this ruins the whole impression).
          I'm sure you could do better! 😉

          (And install GE - it can be so much fun!)


          Suceava.jpg

          Gai...

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          • Bryan KB Offline
            Bryan K
            last edited by

            Keep at it Marion. It's looking good.

            See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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            • numbthumbN Offline
              numbthumb
              last edited by

              I just thought someone might be interested in taking a virtual tour of the fortress:
              http://www.360cities.net/image/suceava5#261.90,-33.20,70.0
              (Marian has no need for that, of course. 😄)

              Comfortably numb...

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Nice find, NTh! 👍

                Gai...

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                • MarianM Offline
                  Marian
                  last edited by

                  That't a great find Numb. That will be great for making textures.
                  Also found a link explaining how they made the 3d presentation of the fortress 6 years ago. 😄 It contains the pictures and angles I was looking for
                  http://journal.univagora.ro/download/pdf/334.pdf

                  http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    Now back to work, Marian!
                    😄

                    Gai...

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                    • MarianM Offline
                      Marian
                      last edited by

                      A couple of renders with a bit of progress and practice mostly.


                      Cetatea de Scaun a Sucevei.2234.jpg


                      Cetatea de Scaun a Sucevei.2249.jpg

                      http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        👍

                        Looking good so far. Now comes texturing I guess!
                        😄

                        Gai...

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                        • numbthumbN Offline
                          numbthumb
                          last edited by

                          Looking good indeed.
                          How detailed is it supposed to be, Marian? (I know you mentioned a medium detailed model, I am just not sure what it means)
                          I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy 😄

                          Comfortably numb...

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            @numbthumb said:

                            I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy 😄

                            🤣

                            Here you are, NTh (click on the image)!
                            😉


                            http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=408819c7962730a8c4d4434db4fc3ba2&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other&ts=1294743382000

                            Gai...

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                            • numbthumbN Offline
                              numbthumb
                              last edited by

                              Ah! Fine! I knew it looked familiar! 😄

                              Comfortably numb...

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                              • MarianM Offline
                                Marian
                                last edited by

                                @numbthumb said:

                                Looking good indeed.
                                How detailed is it supposed to be, Marian? (I know you mentioned a medium detailed model, I am just not sure what it means)
                                I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy 😄

                                Well, I wanted to model the windows, the passage ways, railings on the wall, some of the interior court yard's details...maybe it's more than medium.

                                That Diocletian's palace is awesome and it seems there are great pics of the reconstrcution. It would be a shame not to model it 😄

                                http://www.croatia-nudistsbeaches-scubadiving.com/images/palaca_model.jpg

                                @gaieus said:

                                :thumb: Looking good so far. Now comes texturing I guess!:)

                                I don't know, I'm not satisfied with it yet and still have to add the slits in the walls

                                http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                • MarianM Offline
                                  Marian
                                  last edited by

                                  @numbthumb said:

                                  Now, sorry for hijacking your thread

                                  No worries I love these ancient castles/palaces/fortress and I'm of the opinion that most of them should be better protected, restored and even reconstructed where possible.
                                  In fact here is a cool thread I found where people from all over Europe posted some pics and info on fortified castles, churches.

                                  301 Moved Permanently

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                                  (www.twcenter.net)

                                  http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                  • numbthumbN Offline
                                    numbthumb
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks for the link, Marian!

                                    Comfortably numb...

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                                    • numbthumbN Offline
                                      numbthumb
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for the nudge, Marian.

                                      Apart from being of emotional significance to me ( I spent a great deal of my youth hanging around the Palace), it is a bit of a challenge on its own, as a rare and magnificent monument, as a national and international property, which was added to the UNESCO World Heritage in 1979.

                                      Now, sorry for hijacking your thread, but I guess that a certain amount of artistic licence will also be necessary in this case - it is unlikely that this, very popular Hebrard´s depiction of the palace is historically accurate:800px-SPLIT-Hebrard_overall_color_restitution.jpg

                                      Excavations carried out in 2006/2007 discovered the ancient coast which had stretched the entire lenght of the palace. Thus the Farlati´s reconstruction seems more probable:800px-SPLIT-Farlati_restitution.jpg

                                      Perhaps Gaieus could enlighten me about this? 😕

                                      Comfortably numb...

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by

                                        There is a Hungarian guy who models our forts and castles as they are reconstructed for GE. Of course, they should not be on GE like this (not all are on the 3D Layer) but I'd never report any of them being "inaccurate" (in fact, I'll not even tell which are not accurate here 😄 ). (Any Googler reading this, please, skip the link...)
                                        😒

                                        Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

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                                        (sketchup.google.com)

                                        Gai...

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                                        • MarianM Offline
                                          Marian
                                          last edited by

                                          LOL.
                                          Those are pretty nice, and I see he made a few from my side of the border 😄

                                          http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            @marian said:

                                            I see he made a few from my side of the border 😄

                                            And in Slovakia...
                                            😉

                                            Gai...

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