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    • shuraS Offline
      shura
      last edited by

      With that .jar business I resign right away. just want to put another +1 here: simplifying edges? Oh yes please! (drooling)

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        I had dallied with some outline simplification ideas... but brought v1.0 to market without that functionality as my brain hurt.
        I'll think about it again - e.g. even a simple square hole 32x32 pixels currently has 128 edges when 4 would do!!
        A square hole on the diagonal has 256 edges when 4 would do!!!
        I'm sure I can clone some ideas from others' code πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜„

        TIG

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          @tig said:

          I'll think about it again - e.g. even a simple square hole 32x32 pixels currently has 128 edges when 4 would do!!
          A square hole on the diagonal has 256 edges when 4 would do!!!
          I'm sure I can clone some ideas from others' code πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜„

          With the simplification algorithm I linked to, then those 128 edges should become 4. You feed it a set of points that form a curve (for separate each curve into sets and you get a simplified set.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • CadFatherC Offline
            CadFather
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            speechlessly amazing!

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=294815#p294815
              It's got an 'outline simplifier' option added.
              This is also available a separate tool to simplify the outlines of existing ImageTrimmed components.
              See the notes for details...
              [Thanks to ThomThom and Douglas-Peucker fro the simplification algorithm ideas...]

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
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                @cadfather said:

                not sure what happened but when run, the script opened edge 'detector.jar' file and there it stayed..
                it opened with winrar so will check this out

                You need to have Java enabled on you computer - it usually is...
                Did you extract most files into SKMtools subfolder as the instructions...
                The script doesn't open 'EdgeDector.jar' - rather it should 'execute' it as it's a very small app that does just one thing ?
                What OS system are you using ? XP ??
                What version of IE do you have ?
                What version of SUp ? I guess NOT 9.1 πŸ˜’

                TIG

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                • CadFatherC Offline
                  CadFather
                  last edited by

                  not sure what happened but when run, the script opened edge 'detector.jar' file and there it stayed..
                  it opened with winrar so will check this out

                  EDIT: yes if winrar (i guess any other zipping app as well) is set to open jar files too - trimmer will run winrar -- uncheking the file association makes trimmer work fine

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                  • CadFatherC Offline
                    CadFather
                    last edited by

                    well TIG, with the likes of you, it feels like SU 10.2! πŸ˜†

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                    • T Offline
                      tomasz
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                      Thanks for the interesting plugin and the inspiration TIG!

                      @tig said:

                      I only taught myself Java in the last week or two

                      Two weeks is not that much. I will give it a try!

                      Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
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                        CADfather

                        I have looked at your '.jar' issue... I can reproduce it! IF I let a 'zip/unzip' application like AlZip or WinRar 'poach' the '.jar' file-type as one that it will open. If so then when Ruby tries to 'open' a '.jar' file instead of it 'executing' in Java [like it should], it 'opens' in the decompression application...

                        The solution = look at your WinRar settings and ensure '.jar' is NOT one of its file-types for opening...

                        TIG

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                        • CadFatherC Offline
                          CadFather
                          last edited by

                          thanks TIG, that's exactly what i did - (perhaps wasn't too clear in the edit)

                          one specu-question: could you, adjust the sampling rate/area of the script? suppose you didn't want so much precision, it could perhaps speed up the trimming process - having said that, the simplifier is well integrated
                          once the trim is achieved

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @cadfather said:

                            thanks TIG, that's exactly what i did - (perhaps wasn't too clear in the edit)

                            one specu-question: could you, adjust the sampling rate/area of the script? suppose you didn't want so much precision, it could perhaps speed up the trimming process - having said that, the simplifier is well integrated
                            once the trim is achieved

                            Sorry - didn't see the 'edit' ! πŸ˜’
                            It first has to 'get' all of the edges of the solid/transparent areas - it's 'easier' to draw all of the edges as boundaries to these pixels - this is the most complex outline - a Factor 2 simplification will often improve the steppiness of these edges, BUT it can trim small solid areas or leave small transparent areas... Most of the time in the initial processing is finding which edge bits get faces or 'holes' and of course therefore which are part of which 'loops'... The 'simplifier' works on the face perimeter loops once they are made - it's much easier than trying to decide which edges could be the loops initially... You will have seen that the simplifier at Factor 2 reprocesses the faces' loops quite quickly... I can see how to easily recast the code to allow simplification before processing πŸ˜•

                            TIG

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                            • CadFatherC Offline
                              CadFather
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                              i see.. still a pretty amazing feat.. in fact so are the images produced in the folder.. Thanks again

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @cadfather said:

                                i see.. still a pretty amazing feat.. in fact so are the images produced in the folder.. Thanks again

                                The Image's original 'image' file, 'edged' .png and a .dat file [01s] are put into the temporary folder [it is removed IF it's empty] made inside the SKP model's folder. If you answer 'No' when asked if you want to remove temporary files you can open/use them. I didn't automate this deletion because you might want the Image's 'image' file and/or the 'edged' .png. The .dat file does go but it's just a load of 0s and 1s !!! If you leave one of the dialogs open you can always read/copy it before it 'goes' πŸ˜‰

                                TIG

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                                • CadFatherC Offline
                                  CadFather
                                  last edited by

                                  very useful indeed.. πŸ˜„

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                                  • soloS Offline
                                    solo
                                    last edited by

                                    What am I doing wrong? I have a .png. I made it a component, selected it and then clicked on Image trimmer and get a warning 'Image trimmer: You selected an Image first.', so I exploded and tried again with same warning, I tried simplyfier and it works, but trimming does not, what am I doing wrong?

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @solo said:

                                      What am I doing wrong? I have a .png. I made it a component, selected it and then clicked on Image trimmer and get a warning 'Image trimmer: You selected an Image first.', so I exploded and tried again with same warning, I tried simplyfier and it works, but trimming does not, what am I doing wrong?

                                      You don't use 'ImageTrimmer' on a 'Component' - you use it on a plain imported [unexploded] 'Image' - check in Entity Info to see what it is...
                                      After it's 'trimmed' that Image is copied as a Material applied to Faces inside a new Component...
                                      so then you can no longer 'trim' it, but of course you can 'simplify' the outlines later within the Component... πŸ˜•

                                      TIG

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        Oxer, you might try importing the image as an image and then immediately running the plugin on it. See if that does what you want.

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                                        • OxerO Offline
                                          Oxer
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello TIG!

                                          I don't know how use the plugin, i do this:

                                          1. I import a png file like image.
                                          2. I make a new component, its name the same like image.
                                          3. I make a new material with the png file with the same name, and i apply this material to the face inside the component.
                                          4. I select the image into SU and run the plugin.
                                            Nothing happens, only the plugin creates a folder named "TrimmedImages" in the same directory that Model file, it contains the png file.
                                            What i do bad?

                                          I use Mac with OSX 10.6 and SU 8.

                                          EDIT: Appears this message in Console Ruby
                                          Console Error

                                          "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                          [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                                          • OxerO Offline
                                            Oxer
                                            last edited by

                                            @dave r said:

                                            Oxer, you might try importing the image as an image and then immediately running the plugin on it. See if that does what you want.

                                            I have done so too, but appears a message error in Ruby Console.

                                            "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                                            [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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