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    • jolranJ Offline
      jolran
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      Wow, performance seems very quick. 👍
      May I ask, is it all Ruby?

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @jolran said:

        Wow, performance seems very quick. 👍
        May I ask, is it all Ruby?

        At the moment, yes. Though I expect that eventually some will need to be ported to C - like I did with Vertex Tools. But the biggest bottleneck is SketchUp itself - in that adding geometry gets slower the more geometry is already in the model. 😞

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • iichiversiiI Offline
          iichiversii
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          Take your time TT, looking forward to the release, it will be an addition to vertex tools, keep up the great work 👍

          Bring on the Rain...

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          • jolranJ Offline
            jolran
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            @unknownuser said:

            But the biggest bottleneck is SketchUp itself - in that adding geometry gets slower the more geometry is already in the model

            You mean the total amount of edges-faces in model or the subdividing procedure?

            But still, all Ruby you say. That looks like you got some nice realtime response, thought you pulled some C extension on it already.

            Hope you find time to do some more tutorials on C-extensions later then 😉

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              cuttingedge
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              This should be at the very core of Sketchup's future release.. Amazing tool. Your'e brilliant Thomas!..I believe you could author a toolset like T-spline!

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @jolran said:

                You mean the total amount of edges-faces in model or the subdividing procedure?

                Yea, as SketchUp adds geometry it will check the added geometry for intersections and merging. Meaning that for every entity you add it will loop over every other entity. So it's not even a linear degradation of performance - it's just get horribly slow quickly. 😞

                @jolran said:

                But still, all Ruby you say. That looks like you got some nice realtime response, thought you pulled some C extension on it already.

                At the moment it's ok for the tests I do. I mean, it's not the biggest test models because I haven't made the tools to create anything useful. But once the tools are taking into place I need to focus on performance and the calculation of the bezier curves will most likely need to be ported to C.
                At the moment I reduce the subdivisions when the tools are editing the mesh, for a faster response. But I might try to just draw virtual mesh with OpenGL draw commands, like I played around with in my Catmull-clart subdivision experiment: http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=333&t=47691&p=427968#p427968
                Problem with that is there is no shading of the polygons, so you lose some feeling of the surface since it's just flat shading. Not sure how to do that in the end - kindof hopes for some amazing new feature in SketchUp that will make this easier.

                @jolran said:

                Hope you find time to do some more tutorials on C-extensions later then 😉

                I have some projects that need C Extensions, and usually when I venture off into unknown territories I need to write stuff down so I remember it. Tutorials, guides or blog posts are great for this. It forces you to think about what you think you know.

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @cuttingedge said:

                  I believe you could author a toolset like T-spline!

                  I don't know about that, least not yet. I'm struggling with the math of plain ol' bezier patches. T-Splines is some very clever stuff.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • J Offline
                    jchau2007
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                    TT,
                    Please update us as to where you are at with the Bezier Surfae tool development. We are all waiting on this one for a long time. Well let say you are crossing over two franchises, from Google to now Trimble.

                    thanks,
                    James

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      Yea, it's been taking a long time. It's been a much bigger project than I'd imagined.

                      I've done, what I think, is most of the core. I've begun to work on the tools to manipulate the meshes now.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • D Offline
                        dmatho
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                        Where's the "Super Like" button? 👍

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
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                          @thomthom said:

                          Yea, it's been taking a long time. It's been a much bigger project than I'd imagined.

                          I've done, what I think, is most of the core. I've begun to work on the tools to manipulate the meshes now.

                          "Courage" Thom! this is going to be a wonderful tool, an indispensable one. May be your "Chef d'oeuvre".

                          ++simon

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            I think it's best if I aim for a more basic first release - then do more continuous smaller updates evolving it.

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              interior_design
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                              Many thanks Mr. Thomas for the great efforts in providing very useful plugines for SU. I really aspire to have this plugin into geometry application of SU very soon. I know it is a big project that you didn't imagine it would take that much of time, but at least you got an idea now about the remaining percentage of completing this project.

                              Regards,

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                Bezier Surface is now free and open source!
                                http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2014/11/bezier-surface-for-sketchup-is-now-open-source/

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
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                                  Woohoo! (where is everyone?). Thanks TT!

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                    unclex
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                                    It's really nice!!!!!!!!
                                    But unfortunately, I can only drug out the Purple Grid, cannot double clicked and continued, just showing
                                    Bezier Surface Updating.....
                                    win8.1x64 @SU2015x64 & SU2013, both happened
                                    Should be there any bugs with others plugins?

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
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                                      @unclex said:

                                      But unfortunately, I can only drug out the Purple Grid, cannot double clicked and continued, just showing
                                      Bezier Surface Updating.....

                                      Can you share example model or screenshot?
                                      Any errors in the Ruby Console?

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
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                                        what the? this thing is cool 👍

                                        a question..
                                        is there a way to control the segmentation yet? like, max angle = 5º (or whatever) and anything steeper will break down to two (or more) segments until the maximum mesh angle has been achieved?

                                        bzsQ.jpg

                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @jeff

                                          type subdivisions in the VCB

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @rich o brien said:

                                            @jeff

                                            type subdivisions in the VCB

                                            got it. thanks

                                            untitled.jpg

                                            dotdotdot

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