Cabinet Design program for Sketchup
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Hi dedmin... good post. I agree totally with you in regards to the way SU handles duplicate dynamic components... I sure wish there was a way that you could just turn that off. It's vital that one understand how DC's work in order to avoid "unwanted" surprises. IMHO, though, they are still a very worthwhile and versatile feature.
I've taken the comments that you and Jim have provided me and have made a number of changes to the way my software works:
My export script now gives you the option of renumbering any duplicate cabinets and synchronizing it back to the SU model. I have taken Jim's advice and concatenated this information into the component info name field. When you pull up the DC's component options dialog, it will now display "Cabinet 1", "Cabinet 2"...
With regards to banding, you declare the banding requirement as none/primary/secondary for each side on every cabinet piece (EG. top, deck, left end...). What you can now do is substitute banding material names at export time. My software has a job DC that allows you to specify a number of things including what banding material should be used for primary and secondary. If I have a standard cabinet that declares which edges need to be banded (primary or secondary banding), the actual banding material used could vary for any job that i'm doing... so I now can record that for a specific job (eg. a kitchen that has 30 cabinets) I will use white pvc edgebanding as primary, and oak wood veneer as secondary. At export time, the banding info will be specified using your codes (WPVC-OAK-0-WPVC) instead of p-s-0-p. If you choose not to use the banding material substitution... the export reverts back to the p-p-s-s cutlist plus format.
I haven't had any problems with the inches internal format for mearsurements. The export program detects which end-user model units is being used and converts all dimensions to your selection. Lastly, I have been able to extract the component options label value from the DC. This will allow me to use this value (which could be non-english) as the report header for any exports. I believe that is what you were wanting.
Thank you for all the feedback that you have given me... I appreciate it very much.
Paul
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Excellent news! Seems You fixed all the problems - it is gonna be a fine piece of software! Maybe I didn't dig too deep inside DC, but my work wary deeply and DC are not very practical. Actually if Google improves them they gonna be a killers - especially for cabinets. But I guess knowing ruby helps a lot in your job.
I'm happy to see more knowledgeable people considering SketchUP as a platform for intro-mid-range furniture software! There is a big demand for a such easy, user friendly and inexpensive software! We have here some programs based on AutoCAD that cost more than SketchUP and they output data to Excell - so, the final cost is huge - software, AutoCAD, Microsoft Office, cutting software! And AutoCAd is so slow and bloataware - who needs 200 options for the dimensions? After all furniture is not so complicated! -
Hello Everyone,
I've been busy the past few weeks enhancing the software and have now finalized my first release candidate. I will be doing final testing over the next couple of weeks and when I'm satisfied with the stability of the product, I will be releasing it into beta test... and that's where you can help.
If you have experience building or designing cabinets and have some time that you could devote to giving the product a run through, I would love to hear from you. I can only manage communicating with around 10 testers, so if the response is larger than that, I won't be able to accommodate everyone. Please PM me regarding your interest. Any information you could provide regarding the style of cabinets you build (frameless vs FaceFrame...) and methods used would help me choose a team with the widest variety of knowledge.
thank you... Paul
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The beta test is going well and hopefully I will meet my target date of mid/2011 for release. One of the exercises that I'm doing right now is to pull cabinets from the 3d warehouse and try to duplicate them to smallest detail. I think I've come pretty close, but you have a look. CabinetSense models are on the left.
Paul
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Paul, that's really an impressive and original feature.
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This looks like a great plugin. I would use it on a daily basis for my clients. I do a lot of kitchen and bath remodeling, as long as we could use custom sizes and finishes it would save a lot of time and headache. Please let me know when it is available for purchase!
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Hey Palo
I have been folloing your thread/discussion for awhile, and really like what im seeing. I am a professional kitchen and bathroom designer, and see huge potential in your plugin for Sketchup. I know you are still going througn the beta/testing period and am wondering if you require another beta tester. Although I wouldn't be using the software for generating cutlist, I see huge potential of using this software for interactive use with clients which increases sellability. I had tried previously creating a similar program but ran into issues with changing doorstyles on the fly. Anyhow, I would have lots of input from a design standport if needed.
Email me if you have interest, also I have attached a recent SieMatic Kitchen I've completed. Cheers
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Very nice Kitchen d! I'm partial to that style myself.
CabinetSense is "still" in development, but it is getting very close to the point where I will be satisfied with its options and stability. My target date for release has been mid-year and I'm still close to meeting that target.
For those of you who might be fans of the cutlist plugin for SU...
I am pleased to announce that CabinetSense will be offering a modified version of this very popular plugin. Steve (Racz) and I have reached agreement on the best way to launch this offering and CabinetSense will have full permission to modify and resell Cutlist.
This modified version will be aware of all CabinetSense settings and in particular will offer grain control, banding reductions, and scribe allowances. It will also use Material selections and thickness as set in CabinetSense. For those of you already using cutlist, this version will continue to work with non CabinetSense models, so you won't need to have two versions installed.
Cutlist for CS will be available on a pay per use basis and optionally on all of the unlimited use packages at a minimal additional cost. Pricing will be finalized within the next couple of weeks.
Please visit http://www.steveracz.com/joomla/ For more information on the cutlist plugin.
Paul
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Is the plugin available now?
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Hi jo-ke,
Yes, CabinetSense is finally available for download at http://www.cabinetsensesoftware.com. There is a 14-day free trial and it is available for both the Mac and Windows.
Feedback is most appreciated.
Paul
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Thank you.
I will have a look on it.
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Hi Paul,
CabinetSense is a very interesting approach. What are your plans with it. Is there something in the pipeline to get a cnc functionality out of it? I have no idea what it means to get such a thing running, but this would be the consequently next step. I work for a company here in Germany and we are doing a lot of cabinet design. We use SU for more than fast sketching. But when it comes to the manufacturing process, we have to reconstruct all of the work in Imos (the CAD CAM solution we use) to produce the stuff on our cnc machinery. I wait for the day all the work can be done in SU - or at least most of it.
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Hi jo
My mission for CabinetSense is to provide an easy to use, affordable solution for the smaller cabinet firm. Sketchup is certainly both of that and only time will tell if I can deliver as well.
I hope to move CS in two directions, firstly as a design tool that will help sell as well as cement the specifications of the job; and secondly as a production tool that will accurately and seamlessly move the job to the shop floor.
Certainly as a production tool, cnc is on the radar. One of the inherent issues with Sketchup in this regard is that it represents arcs as a series of line segments. However, CabinetSense is not meant to be one-stop solution and I believe a viable solution to this is to simply defer any radius work to another program. CS would do the bulk of the case good processing including, drill points, dados... I'm still very much of a novice when it comes to cnc and the different ways you can communicate with them.... whether that be DXF or direct-to-machine coding. I have no timeframe for implementing this, but it is more of a learning exercise at this time rather than a work-in-progress.
Thanks for your input.
Paul
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As a professional wood worker and SkethUp enthusiast, would you need help with a French translation I'd be happy to help.
I use a lot Cutlist and love chatting with Steve about it's features;
well done.
best regards
bertier
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@gaieus said:
And here it is in Google-Pidgin (for some reason, the characters appear in a very weird colour hard to see)
FYI at least for my IE8 you can set an option to ignore colors on the web page and the are ok then
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@palo said:
Hi jo
My mission for CabinetSense is to provide an easy to use, affordable solution for the smaller cabinet firm. Sketchup is certainly both of that and only time will tell if I can deliver as well.
I hope to move CS in two directions, firstly as a design tool that will help sell as well as cement the specifications of the job; and secondly as a production tool that will accurately and seamlessly move the job to the shop floor.
Certainly as a production tool, cnc is on the radar. One of the inherent issues with Sketchup in this regard is that it represents arcs as a series of line segments. However, CabinetSense is not meant to be one-stop solution and I believe a viable solution to this is to simply defer any radius work to another program. CS would do the bulk of the case good processing including, drill points, dados... I'm still very much of a novice when it comes to cnc and the different ways you can communicate with them.... whether that be DXF or direct-to-machine coding. I have no timeframe for implementing this, but it is more of a learning exercise at this time rather than a work-in-progress.
Thanks for your input.
Paul
Hi Paul,
We are furniture wall units ,large bookcase manufacturer in Ny , I just found this blog when I was searching SU CNC output, I downloaded and tested your CS , it is really nice fast and very accurate, I have very similar SU dynamic component that I wrote,OC32 and merged with several softwares , It is base on 32mm european system frameless cabinetry, ( case ,door, drawer, shelve , partition and toe) after I input all the measurements I make unique of all the parts and add machining terms names each part, the longest time consuming is the preparing the part names We cut at automatic panel saw 300-400 unique parts then we drill at the automated boring machine, spray the finish and assemble every week.
some suggestions,
- drop dow menu, material thickness change all or individually
- drop down menu, change doors and drawers front, inset or outset from the carcass,
- change height of the drawer box and drawer front separately but they will be in group
- space between back of the door and carcass frame when door overlays the carcass
- aplie same principle at parent, all carcass panel can be inset or outset or one end inset other end outset ( same as the pack panel future at parent )
thanks
Ozan
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@palo said:
I have developed a Cabinet Design program for Sketchup which may be of interest to this forum. You can watch a preview of the software at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=763bsw5Y0Gk - your comments would be appreciated.
Paul
I cannot see the video. Youtube says it's private?
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Yeah shows private to me as well.
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Hi,Palo.
I'm a project manager of furniture factory in Taiwan(ASIA).
I know this is an old thread,but still,gotta say thanks to you,
this plugin is a huge advance for our working progress.
Much appreciated for you work!
-Sam
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