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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      (c) TIG 2010
      Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for
      any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above
      copyright notice appear in all copies.
      THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR
      IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THE IMPLIED
      WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.


      You need this file
      #FlattenToPlane.rb >>> Plugins Folder
      You must also have this file
      #WorkPlane.rb >>> Plugins Folder http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=274345#p274345


      Usage:
      Make or choose a 'WorkPlane' that is located on the 'plane' onto which
      you want to project your 'flattened' Geometry.
      Select the 'WorkPlane' and the required Geometry [Edges etc, note that
      Faces etc will be ignored], and/or Groups, and/or Component_Instances.
      Run this Tool from the menu 'Plugins' > 'Flatten to Plane'
      or type 'flattentoplane' in the Ruby Console.
      If there is no 'WorkPlane' and/or other objects in the Selection you get an
      error message.
      Assuming it runs...
      All Edges in the Selection that are not 'hidden' or not on 'off layers' are
      projected onto that 'plane'.
      The new 'flattened' Edges are put into a new Group named 'FLAT_123456.789'
      [it has a 'date/time' suffix].
      Each new Edge takes the original Edge's layer.
      If an Edge is in a Group it is put into a new Group made inside the new
      'FLAT_123456.789' Group that is named after the original Group's name +
      '_FLAT'. This nested Group takes the original Group's layer.
      If an Edge is in a Component_Instance it is put into a new Group made
      inside the new 'FLAT_123456.789' Group that is named after the original
      Component Definition's name + '_FLAT'. This nested Group takes the
      original Instance's layer.
      On completion the new Group ['FLAT_123456.789'] is left highlighted.


      Donations:
      by PayPal to info @ revitrev.org PayPalButton ___________________________________________________________________________
      Version:
      1.0 20101022 First release.
      1.1 20101022 Nested groups/instances now included.
      1.2 20101023 The correct Plane of a 'WorkPlane' is now used even if it has
      been Transformed inside its own Group.
      ___________________________________________________________________________#FlattenToPlane.rb

      TIG

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      • J Offline
        jsteacy
        last edited by

        Cool Plugin, will definitely use this, thank you. I've got one request though, is there a way to make an option that the new geometry created becomes a plane with no interior lines. See the image below, the cylinder has a lot of lines but is not a plane. I feel more often than not if you are using this plugin you'll want to extrude the geometry afterwords but for complex shapes you'll end up with a lot of lines to delete. I could be wrong though. Maybe just make it so the new geometry has all the planes drawn in.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          To add faces you can quickly over-drawn th whole thing with a giant circle which will 'face' and intersect with any edges that could 'face': then erase the outer giant circle.
          To make a 'silhouette' is much more complex as we'd need to do the above programmatically AND then erase inner island faces and afterwards we need to tidy unfaced edges and any coplanar edges that are not needed...
          I'll think about it...

          TIG

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          • B Offline
            Ben Ritter
            last edited by

            TIG, thank you, again πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=281320#p281320
              Nested groups/instances now included.

              TIG

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              • J Offline
                jsteacy
                last edited by

                ThomThom's Cleanup script works pretty well to delete all the co-planar lines once the face exist. I tried creating the large circle around the geometry to get the faces but it doesn't always create all the necessary faces, so maybe you could look into just create the faces for the resultant geometry. But that's just a suggestion.

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                • G Offline
                  gude
                  last edited by

                  I have no words to thank for your quick response. Your speed to make the solution is amazing.
                  I just got the script and was playing with it for a while. I created a work plane i selected my group and run it.
                  The result was the model got unfolded on the working plane. Or is it my problem I've attached the model.
                  And One more thing, If i have my section plane on, does it flatten only the visible geometry.
                  Again thank you so much. πŸ‘


                  Project_edges_on_plane.skp

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                  • P Offline
                    Powerwall
                    last edited by

                    Ok, I must be doing something wrong. I am building a model wind turbine and want to cut out blades for the model. The blades wrap around a frame in a helical design. I want to flatten the helical shape so that I can get the 2d curve that best approximates the shape of the blade. So I download both plugins and select a plane and select my model. I run the flatten plugin and I now have a blue box around my model blade, but it is still in 3 dimensions. Any ideas as to what I am doing incorrectly? This looks like a great plugin and is just what I need to get my new business started if I can make it work! Thanks in advance for your help.

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Gude

                      I can see the problem...
                      I can't see see what's causing it [yet] πŸ˜’
                      I think perhaps you need Jim Foltz's 'unfold.rb'..............

                      TIG

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @powerwall said:

                        Ok, I must be doing something wrong. I am building a model wind turbine and want to cut out blades for the model. The blades wrap around a frame in a helical design. I want to flatten the helical shape so that I can get the 2d curve that best approximates the shape of the blade. So I download both plugins and select a plane and select my model. I run the flatten plugin and I now have a blue box around my model blade, but it is still in 3 dimensions. Any ideas as to what I am doing incorrectly? This looks like a great plugin and is just what I need to get my new business started if I can make it work! Thanks in advance for your help.

                        This tool only 'projects' a form onto a plane [when it's working!] - if you want to 'unfold' a form use Jim Foltz's 'unfold.rb'..........
                        There is is also 'flatten.rb' from Smustard ?

                        TIG

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's an alternative 'Silhouette to Plane' Tool http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=281445#p281445

                          TIG

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                            Powerwall
                            last edited by

                            Thanks so much for the info on the unfold tool. This is exactly what I need to convert the 3d curve to a 2d shape that I can have manufactured. I have my first customer for my wind turbine design but the blade design has been a hangup as my manufacturer was unable to determine the curves to cut for the blades. Not knowing CAD, I was at a loss. I can't put into words how great it is to have a solution. Thanks a million!

                            Keith Tully
                            Power Wall Systems
                            http://www.powerwallsystems.net

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                            • gillesG Offline
                              gilles
                              last edited by

                              SU 8 versionHello,

                              first I must thank you for your marvelous plugins.

                              so I try this one and exept for the workplane coplanar to the ground the result is not coplanar with is workplane but seems to be perpendicular.

                              SU 8 on mac 10.6

                              see attatchment.


                              SU 7 version

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I think the problem lies with the transformations of the WorkPlanes...
                                If you simply move / rotate the WorkPlane group then the tool will use its 'plane' correctly - as the WorkPlane is effectively 2D and its bounds are not orthogonal to the main axes.
                                You seem to have unlocked and edited the internal contents of the WorkPlane group so that they are then angled within the group and therefore whilst the group is 'orthogonal' to the axes the plane's face is not: because the tool takes the WorkPlanes group's transformation to place the 'flattened' version it appears 'orthogonal' matching the WorkPlane group's alignment and not the internal 'face'...

                                I can probably trap for this too... ❓

                                TIG

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=281320#p281320
                                  The correct Plane of a 'WorkPlane' is now used even if it has been Transformed inside its own Group.

                                  TIG

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                                  • M Offline
                                    manamana
                                    last edited by

                                    sorry for the stupid question, but I can't test this at the moment.

                                    does this script take geometry and lay it flat, or does it create a projection onto the work plane?

                                    I'm looking for a script that will take a bunch of randomly oriented faces and lay them out nice and flat on the ground plane. For lasercutting, so I don't want them projected/distorted.

                                    Thanks,
                                    C

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @manamana said:

                                      sorry for the stupid question, but I can't test this at the moment.

                                      does this script take geometry and lay it flat, or does it create a projection onto the work plane?

                                      I'm looking for a script that will take a bunch of randomly oriented faces and lay them out nice and flat on the ground plane. For laser-cutting, so I don't want them projected/distorted.

                                      Thanks,
                                      C

                                      This tool makes a 'projection' of the vertices in a shape to the nearest points on a plane.
                                      Therefore if the object is skewed relative to the plane its projection will be distorted compared to its 'parent'.
                                      This tool and its sibling 'SilhouetteToPlane' are very similar - this one projects vertices into new lines and keeps grouping etc whilst the other makes a cardboard-cutout silhouette of the 'profile' and faces it.
                                      To lay the faces in objects flat onto the ground I suggest you try Jim Foltz's 'unfold.rb' - it's not 'automatic' but it's easy enough to use...
                                      Are your faces individually grouped?
                                      If so it might be easy enough to script a tool to transform them all 'flat' [normal=[0,0,1]] and all moved to be on the ground - z=0 - you might need to do some tidying if they overlapped etc... but another algorithm to shift them around once they were 'flat' so their bounds didn't intersect would also be feasible...
                                      Adding text-tags to the grouped faces and their 'flattened' counterparts would also be helpful to keep track of them?
                                      πŸ€“

                                      TIG

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                                      • W Offline
                                        watkins
                                        last edited by

                                        Could someone provide a few worked examples where this tool, and Silouette to plane, prove useful? I am still not clear on function.

                                        Thanks!
                                        Bob

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          See this...Capture.PNG

                                          TIG

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                                            watkins
                                            last edited by

                                            Dear TIG,

                                            Many thanks for the illustration. So, am I right in thinking that this tool could be used to create third angle projects? Presumably, after using the flattening to plane/keep all edges tool, one could then delete unwanted lines and/or change lines to construction lines to show hidden detail?

                                            Kind regards,
                                            Bob

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