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    • R Offline
      Riblets
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      @solo said:

      Aaron,

      I do not fully understand, you supply the Island and you need models for it?

      Is the Island to scale? what kind of buildings do you want, what's the theme?

      I looked at the link for the viewer and it looks cool, but you say you are using KT, so are you going to animate it or is this just a 360 pan of island?

      Sorry for all questions, as this sounds interesting but I just do not understand what the participation/collaboration is to work or what the final product will look like.

      Hi,

      The island is to scale at about 500' across, as for architecture style, i've been leaning towards victorian/steampunk since I got this book: http://www.amazon.com/Victorian-Domestic-Architectural-Plans-Details/dp/0486254429/ref=pd_sim_b_6.

      By the way, I've made that model freely editable, so you can make changes to it, click "Share Component..." and I'll approve them.

      This is the rendering plan: Once the buildings are created on the model I linked to, I'll be placing cameras at appropriate points and rendering them out as cylindrical projections. Finally I'll connect the world together using image maps.

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      • AdamBA Offline
        AdamB
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        The Google code viewer seems to show panoramas without correction so its all distorted. Is that right?

        Not sure what your plans are but Gocubic.exe on PC and PanoVR on Mac are both simple and output a quicktime VR file viewable in a browser. (eg swf file)

        Or if you generate a 6 image set, you can use a ton of different browser viewers.

        [flash=512,512:2kbppyla]http://www.light-up.co.uk/resources/cubicvr/panoviewer.swf?filePath=http://www.light-up.co.uk/resources/cubicvr/cube1/&prefix=cofla[/flash:2kbppyla]

        And you wouldn't expect anything less from me, if I say LightUp has a 1-click export for Panoramas. plug plug πŸ˜‰

        Adam

        Developer of LightUp Click for website

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Why not spherical projection? At some spots it could be interesting to look up for instance. KT can export cylindrical - can your engine be used with spherical images? (I mean to turn not only around but up/down, too)

          @adamb said:

          And you wouldn't expect anything less from me, if I say LightUp has a 1-click export for Panoramas. plug plug πŸ˜‰

          Hehe. I do know that for instance, Adam!
          πŸ˜‰

          Gai...

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            Riblets
            last edited by

            @gaieus said:

            Why not spherical projection? At some spots it could be interesting to look up for instance. KT can export cylindrical - can your engine be used with spherical images? (I mean to turn not only around but up/down, too)

            @adamb said:

            The Google code viewer seems to show panoramas without correction so its all distorted. Is that right?

            If it's a cylindrical projection, it's OK, I'm currently working on up/down panning, but it won't correct for distortion. Remember, the original MYST/Riven didn't even have panning and it was still pretty immersive. It's not the end of the world if you can't look up and down fully.

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              Gaieus
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              @riblets said:

              It's not the end of the world if you can't look up and down fully.

              Sure it isn't - I was just wondering. Here (sorry, Hungarian only) I have a cylindrical panorama, too (that's "just" a photo). When zooming in (with the scroll wheel) you have some up/down possibilities but otherwise there's no special reason for full spherical view of course.
              http://hu.septichora.hu/360d-panorama-cella-septichora/

              Gai...

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
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                Okay so if I'm understand correctly you want to create some sort of walk around using a collection of renders right?

                So which part of walking around is the game part? how is it played?

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                  Riblets
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                  @solo said:

                  Okay so if I'm understand correctly you want to create some sort of walk around using a collection of renders right?

                  So which part of walking around is the game part? how is it played?

                  Well my thinking was that we could plan out some puzzles using flash, java or javascript, leaving clues around the island, and closing off areas unless you've unlocked a variable. Honestly, this is the least difficult part about the game, linking to a lightbox "Detailed" view of a control panel is no more complicated than linking to another panorama.

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                    Dragoonprogramming
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                    when can I start? πŸ˜„

                    "...And if he says that one more time i'll punch him right in the throat" - Armstrong and Getty
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                      Riblets
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                      Well, I've opened up the model for anyone to edit and upload, so if you want to stake a claim, I would just start by making a square on a spot here: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=efdc77c7a9aef92269bca1f7f550b04 then reexporting the model (right click -> share) and export that square as a component to 3D Warehouse (so to make edits to your model, you don't have to reopen the entire island).

                      Happy building! I'll be making edits myself this weekend.

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                        Riblets
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                        The foundation is built

                        So i've decided to add a little structure for builders out there. Each building is an editable component, that can be accessed here: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=5e50316b8fccc76a69bca1f7f550b04

                        Once there is an addition, I'll reload the component in the island model. Honestly, I'd love to see some creativity, don't feel like you're stuck within some type of style or constraint by the boxy nature of these initial models, these are general areas to get started with modeling, if we need to adjust later, we can. πŸ˜„

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
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                          Is it just modeling at this point?, or should there be some sort of logic puzzle built into the model from the start?

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                            Riblets
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                            @chris fullmer said:

                            Is it just modeling at this point?, or should there be some sort of logic puzzle built into the model from the start?

                            I wouldn't worry too much about the puzzles, but keep it in mind when you're building. This is all about a collaborative effort, so you may want to work specifically on one building and on a puzzle to get into that building that's spread across the island.

                            You could also have an open building that starts the story and introduces people who lived on the island, just clues to get people started. If you've ever played Zork or Myst, you know what I'm talking about.

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                              Chris Fullmer
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                              I really do like the idea, I think its fun. I do wonder though if a storyline would help the modeling process. Making the buildings might go smoother if there was an underlying narrative that drives their design.

                              But until then, steampunk/Victorian is enough to go by. But eventualy the game narrative will have to be developed, and hopefully no time will have been wasted on buildings that don't fit the narrative.

                              Chris

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                                Riblets
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                                @chris fullmer said:

                                I really do like the idea, I think its fun. I do wonder though if a storyline would help the modeling process. Making the buildings might go smoother if there was an underlying narrative that drives their design.

                                But until then, steampunk/Victorian is enough to go by. But eventualy the game narrative will have to be developed, and hopefully no time will have been wasted on buildings that don't fit the narrative.

                                Chris

                                So I've given this a lot of thought, and I think I've got a good story to build around:

                                A fascist country has exiled several prominent scientists to this remote island deeming them to be too valuable for national research, but too outspoken to be allowed to speak publicly. Each building is the residence and laboratory of one scientist, but they've all successfully escaped somehow without leaving a single trace of their route. The game is escaping the island by figuring out how they left.

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                                  pyroluna
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                                  That sounds like fun! I'm in!
                                  That book looks good too, I'll see if I can get my hands on a copy πŸ˜„

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                                    Ghalko
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                                    I would like to help... this should be intersting. πŸŽ‰

                                    I will let you know when I have something. πŸ˜„

                                    Arrrggghhh! Why won't it make a face!!! Stupid, no good piece of... Oh look! The line went to the wrong point. Whew... moving on. (My fights with sketchup.)

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                                      Riblets
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                                      Awesome guys, thanks for the help! I'll be making a house as soon as I get some time from work.

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                                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                        Chris Fullmer
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                                        I started toying around with a model kast night (on building B) and I just have to ask - what is the purpose of this? Completely non-revnue generating? Just for fun? Is it associated with your company or a school project or anything? I'd hate for us to all model some awesome buildings, then find this on a website that generates you lots of money and gives nothing back to all the contributors. Soo, please verify the intention of this.

                                        And then, how much can I adjust the terrain? I had some changing I wanted to do about how my building interacts with the ground. Also, I was using the existing building a very general guideline - I completely changed the footprint. Is all that ok?

                                        Thanks!

                                        Chris

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                                          Riblets
                                          last edited by

                                          @chris fullmer said:

                                          I started toying around with a model kast night (on building B) and I just have to ask - what is the purpose of this? Completely non-revnue generating? Just for fun? Is it associated with your company or a school project or anything? I'd hate for us to all model some awesome buildings, then find this on a website that generates you lots of money and gives nothing back to all the contributors. Soo, please verify the intention of this.

                                          And then, how much can I adjust the terrain? I had some changing I wanted to do about how my building interacts with the ground. Also, I was using the existing building a very general guideline - I completely changed the footprint. Is all that ok?

                                          Thanks!

                                          Chris

                                          I think this should be liscensed with Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 United States to be sure it's a community owned project. My intention is to see if a game like Myst can be crowd sourced through free software, and eventually building a community that believes games should be more about story and mental challenge than learning repetitive actions.

                                          Thats completely ok, the island is a general sketch for inviting detail, I only ask that once the detail is added that you kindly ask the community if you can change it around. I may hold back a revision if I think there is a conflict, and I'll ask the question here. If this project gets too big for a thread on this forum, we may want to talk about creating a discussion group (or a google code project page for version controlling the KT scene files).

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                                            Riblets
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                                            Oh I did want to add something before I forget, If you have an idea for a room or a component or the type of furniture that should be added, either add a note to the component comments box, or drop a text notation on that room. This will make it easy for others to help you out!

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