What SketchUp could/should have been like...
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Another teaser for "the rendering killer".
Advanced lighting and reflective shaders in realtime still it looks very easy to use.
Like SU 8 it also has booleans but it's a little bit cooler than in SU.
[flash=640,390:tlkb291i]http://www.youtube.com/v/WOdfe7rmULM&rel=0&hl=en_US[/flash:tlkb291i]
The animated vegetation instancing painting doesnt look to bad either.
[flash=640,390:tlkb291i]http://www.youtube.com/v/mlZUDUCcImk&rel=0&hl=en_US[/flash:tlkb291i]
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And their website:
http://www.therenderingkiller.com/
"Opening October" - that's just two days!
(And you missed to embed the Environment part)
YouTube - Twinmotion 14th teaser environment
[flash=560,334:proja10f]http://www.youtube.com/v/3LaihAROzg0?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash:proja10f] -
Hi Jan,
my experience is It's always the same in all these promotional videos. The first impression is that everything is very simple. When you enter deeper into the program then you realize it is not all that simple. Most of them have a long learning curve. It may be easier to people who have had experiences with other 3D programs.
This is not a negative. I've often downloaded trial versions of various 3D programs and tried. I usually gave up again in exasperation.
Charly
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the conception video in one word: AMAZING
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@charly2008 said:
Hi Jan,
my experience is It's always the same in all these promotional videos. The first impression is that everything is very simple. When you enter deeper into the program then you realize it is not all that simple. Most of them have a long learning curve. It may be easier to people who have had experiences with other 3D programs.
This is not a negative. I've often downloaded trial versions of various 3D programs and tried. I usually gave up again in exasperation.
Charly
What I meant is that SketchUp COULD have been this good if they had wanted to implement realtime lighting and shaders.
Imagine how cool that would be to model (in SketchUp) while everything is shaded and lighted.
Meaning, advanced looks doesnt necessarily mean that workflow must be difficult. -
that is all true. And learning curves take even longer with me. . .that being said. . I am definitely staying tuned in to this one.. .
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@gaieus said:
And their website:
http://www.therenderingkiller.com/
"Opening October" - that's just two days!Actually I didn't dare to include the link after the previous thread debacle.
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=30907Since the last teaser is set for october 5:th the site will probably not be up until sometime after that.
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I wonder how easy/difficult it is to create or customize your own assets...?
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@thomthom said:
I wonder how easy/difficult it is to create or customize your own assets...?
or draw while using actual measurements
the toolset is looking very weak as far as architectural modeling goes...
[or maybe it's just me.. i've tried so many different apps that have similar looking tools and i couldn't get into them at all]
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Read an interesting take on another site:
"You have to be aware that any engine based on rasterization, that is glorified game engines, will be full of hacks for implementing almost all visual effects. Contrary to physically-based engine in whom visual effects are the direct consequence of a physical simulation.
What it means is that those engines will always be tailored to specific cases, and when you push them you will get a lot of artifacts. It works great for a game because the devteam is in close contact with the design team, so both can adapt to make the result an almost flawless experience." -
Here is a quote from the site:
@unknownuser said:
Of course we’re aware that many different approaches to workflow exist in architectural design, and even more in 3D design. Indeed, every agency can develop their own unique way of working.
However, Twinmotion is a very accessible application that doesn’t attempt to compete with most modeling tools; although it does, quite naturally, import all that you might use elsewhere, and it possesses its own intuitive modeling tools which are remarkably receptive.
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@solo said:
What it means is that those engines will always be tailored to specific cases, and when you push them you will get a lot of artifacts
true. you can already see the shadow errors on the right wall (from 0min 33sec)
but lets wait and play with it first
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**@unknownuser said:
What SketchUp could/should have been like...**
well for those of us in Boulder last month will tell you. . .this will all be part of SU 9
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I don't see it as a "rendering killer". There will still be a need for photo realistic stills, but for real time interactive visualisation and as a tool for animation it looks very promising.
Having spent more than 4 weeks (24h/7days a week) rendering an animation with Vray, and still having render artifacts, this could be a life saver. -
I see this as a great way to get SU models into game engines, great exterior visuals as well as interior both still and animation. Depending on the price that is.
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The scenes are usually heavy optimised in such case ...something like Crytek ...but when you try it yourself nothing really is good like in those promos. I would like to believe different but I am a bit sceptic.
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@unknownuser said:
Twinmotion is a Windows only software. We have tested and optimised however Twinmotion on dual boot MacOS. It works just great. Yes we did think of all you Mac users!
You gotta give it to Google, at least they support both the major platforms (Linux would be nice too, but two is a great start.
)As for Twinmotion "thinking of us Mac users"..
...hmm I'll keep my expletives to myself for now 
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Apparently there is no GI and no raytracing but all rasterized rendering. I'd put it a few steps above iClone, but not much.
I'm more excited about the release of iray today!!!
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Adam is Iray going to be integrated with max like Mental Ray?
Ah..of course Iray has been part of Mental Ray since v3.8....
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I too could/should have been good looking, and rich.
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