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    • T Offline
      tspco
      last edited by

      @box said:

      I think you will find it is using the units of the model. Try setting the model units to Fractional or whichever suits your model.

      I use feet and inches, I tried putting in 1'4" and got an error.

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
        last edited by

        @tspco said:

        I use feet and inches, I tried putting in 1'4" and got an error.

        You're kind of vague. What was the error message?

        Where were you trying to enter your 1'4"? If you look at the first post of the thread you'll see that the default size of the grid is 50' x 50'. The instructions are given there for changing it.
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        • T Offline
          tspco
          last edited by

          Screenshots...
          When I try to change the work grid plane settings, I get the error. Bottom line is you cannot use anything but feet or decimals of feet in the plugins current state. For a 16" on center, I either use 16" or 1'4" not 1.3333 (feet).


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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            My WorkPlane currently takes input as a float number and converts it into a length.
            You cannot input fractional inches etc.
            However, I'll look at updating it as things have moved on and it's easy enough to enable now...

            TIG

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            • T Offline
              tspco
              last edited by

              Thanks Tig

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                I now have a working version that takes each and every units format input [5' 6 1/2" etc !]
                I'll publish it later when I get some time to encrypt it etc for the PluginStore...

                TIG

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Here's v2.4 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=274345#p274345

                  It has been Module-ized.

                  Inputs can now be in any units/format:
                  1'6", 1 1/2", 1000mm, 100cm, 10m, 1234.5 etc...

                  There is also some more 'future-proofing' behind the scenes...

                  Get the latest version from the PluginStore... http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=WorkPlane

                  TIG

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Here's v2.5 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=274345#p274345

                    It has some minor cosmetic tweaks.
                    As recently updated, inputs can now be in any units/format:
                    1'6", 1 1/2", 1000mm, 100cm, 10m, 1234.5 etc...

                    Get the latest version from the PluginStore... http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=WorkPlane

                    TIG

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                    • K Offline
                      kaas
                      last edited by

                      Hello TIG,

                      I'm trying out Workplane in SU2014. I think it isn't always working as intended. For instance when drawing a rectangle and sometimes even simple lines on a angular workplane - they are drawn on the world-xy plane instead.

                      greetings, Max

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Do you make the WorkPlane big enough to draw onto ?
                        It does NOT constrain the input points from other tools onto the plane, if they are OUTSIDE of the WorkPlane's perimeter... πŸ˜•

                        TIG

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                          kaas
                          last edited by

                          @tig said:

                          Do you make the WorkPlane big enough to draw onto ?
                          It does NOT constrain the input points from other tools onto the plane, if they are OUTSIDE of the WorkPlane's perimeter... πŸ˜•
                          Workplane is big enough indeed. See attached file.


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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            When drawing onto a WorkPlane you need to watch the cursor's inferencing tooltips...
                            If it says 'On Face', 'Intersection', 'EndPoint' etc then its on the WorkPlane or probably inferencing the grid or other geometry you have just added onto it.
                            If you pull the cursor away from the WorkPlane, or accept an axial inference etc, then chances are the new line you make will NOT be on the WorkPlane.

                            You get exactly the same effects drawing onto a sloping standard Face in your model.

                            All a WorkPlane is, is a large transparent face with a guide-line grid, locked into place, to assist you in drawing in that plane - useful when you do not have faces or other geometry etc to inference onto.
                            If does not magically 'constrain' the cursor [unlike my 2dTools which limit geometry to a flat plane with a specified Z].
                            You can draw 'away' from a WorkPlane at any time - as you have found. πŸ€“

                            TIG

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                              kaas
                              last edited by

                              @tig said:

                              All a WorkPlane is, is a large transparent face with a guide-line grid, locked into place, to assist you in drawing in that plane - useful when you do not have faces or other geometry etc to inference onto.
                              If does not magically 'constrain' the cursor [unlike my 2dTools which limit geometry to a flat plane with a specified Z].
                              You can draw 'away' from a WorkPlane at any time - as you have found.

                              Thanks for your reply TIG. I was mistaken and was wrongly expecting the workplane would magically 'constrain' the cursor like in your 2dTools. My fault.

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                              • kenK Offline
                                ken
                                last edited by

                                TIG

                                I have downloaded the new version of Workplane. I can only set the plane in inches, no matter what my units are set too, the plane if always set in inches.

                                Ex.

                                Units, ft, set 200x200, I get a 200 inch workplane.

                                Units, m, set 200x200, I get the same 200 inch workplance.

                                Thanks in advance for you help.

                                Ken

                                Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  Ken, are you right clicking in space and setting the grid size and spacing as directed in the hints at the bottom of the screen? I just gave it a try and it picks up model units just fine.

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    The latest version of WorkPlane ought to now work in any input units.
                                    So if your Model Units are inches, then 'plain numbers' are taken as inches.
                                    Or if the Model Units are feet, then 'plain numbers are taken as feet etc...
                                    BUT if you want something say in feet but the Model Units are inches yhen type 1' so it's read as one foot [12"], or say 1m so it ~40" [for the meter grid in an Inch-model] ?
                                    So to use units different from the Model Units just add a suffix "/'/m/cm/mm ?

                                    However, while checking I do see some inconsistencies in dialog's like 'Adjust' for changing grid-width etc, so I'm investigating...

                                    Thanks for the feedback though. πŸ˜„

                                    TIG

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Here's v2.6 in the PluginStore.
                                      http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=WorkPlane

                                      A typo in the dialog to Set/Adjust Grid-width meant the grid-width always matched the grid-height !
                                      Now it works properly again and the grid's width and height can be set separately.

                                      TIG

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                                      • kenK Offline
                                        ken
                                        last edited by

                                        TIG, Dave

                                        Here are screen shots of me trying to use feet. Note, the model units are in feet.

                                        So what am I doing wrong?

                                        Thanks in advance for your help.

                                        Ken


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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Are you manipulating WorkPlanes made in an earlier version, or perhaps using a SKP that had the earlier WorkPlanes used previously ?
                                          These used a 'float' number, which was taken as 'meters' or 'feet' depending on your Model Units...

                                          After several requests, the latest version allows you to input the sizes in ANY units format, unfortunately these are now 'Lengths' not 'Floats'...

                                          I can trap for that... πŸ˜’
                                          I should have trapped for that !!! 😳

                                          Watch this space... πŸ˜›

                                          Meanwhile running this line of code in the Ruby Console after opening your older SKP will wipe the now incompatible stored WorkPlane details:
                                          Sketchup.active_model.attribute_dictionaries.delete("WorkPlane")

                                          I'll try and fix it tomorrow... πŸ˜•

                                          TIG

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                                          • kenK Offline
                                            ken
                                            last edited by

                                            TIG

                                            Thanks, that did it.

                                            However, even that one line of code made me look like an idiot. So I pasted the line of code into the Ruby Console, "thinking hard, now don't mess this up", didn't press the enter key. Darn, why didn't that work. Well, I went to paste the line again, but to do that I had to hit the enter key, darn that's why it didn't work. I guess thinking while doing something that is almost automatic, gave rise to the term, "over thinking the problem".

                                            Thanks TIG

                                            Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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