Instructor content

bentleykfrog

@kirill2008 said:

Does anyone know how to find out how many slashes and dots are needed at certain end user comp ("..\..\..\..\"). I mean if someone has installed sketchup in a custom subdirectory it is necessary to add/remove one of "..\" I guess.

I think that because its relative to [sketchup folder]/Resources/[language]/helpcontent/tool/ that it shouldn't matter where sketchup is installed, as this will be constant. The parent directory "..\" folder just goes back through tool -> helpcontent -> [language] -> resources to get you to the base [sketchup folder].

@thomthom said:

And because some OSX users put their plugins in the user folder instead of the default, one can never rely to plugins to be at a fixed relative path.

You're right this is a huge issue. I'm guessing that on OSX this path will be relative to the main library folder (ie. [primary hard drive]/Library/Application Support/[sketchup folder]/Sketchup/Resources/[language]/helpcontent/tool/). So maybe you can do some comparison between Sketchup.find_support_file "[some_file].html", "Tools/[your_plugin]/" and the main library location, like this:

def getInstructorContentDirectory
  plugin_folder = Sketchup.find_support_file test_file.html, "Tools/My Plugin/"
  plugin_folder = plugin_folder.split("test_file.html")
  plugin_folder_array = plugin_folder[0].split("/")
  if(plugin_folder_array[1] == "Library")
    #so the plugin/tool is stored in the main library
    return "../../../../Tools/My Plugin/Instructor/"
  elsif (plugin_folder_array[1] == "Program Files" || plugin_folder_array[1] == "Program Files (x86)")
    #the operating system is PC, so only 1 location for tools/plugins
    #there's probably a better way to do this
    return "../../../../Tools/My Plugin/Instructor/"
  else
    #not sure about this, especially since it could be traversing drives
    return "../../../../../../../../../"+plugin_folder+"Instructor/"
  end
end

I'm not sure about the OSX support, but I'll check after I'm finished with my work on the PC.

What do you guys think?

-niall

thomthom

Ah!!!

Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent' )

returns:
C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Resources/en-US/helpcontent

thomthom

File.exist?( 'C:/temp/test.png' )
Returns:
true

<span class="syntaxdefault"><br />path </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> Sketchup</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">get_resource_path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'helpcontent'</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">parts </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">SEPARATOR </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">size<br />root </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">"..#{File;;SEPARATOR}"</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> parts<br />file </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">join</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> root</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'temp'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'test.png'</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">exist</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> file </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span>

Returns:
true

(Updated it use File::SEPARATOR)

( file = C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Resources/en-US/helpcontent/../../../../../../../temp/test.png )

Restricted to the drive SketchUp is installed to.
Untested under OSX

TIG

File.exist?( 'H:/temp/test.png' )
Returns:
true

<span class="syntaxdefault">    tfile </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'H;/temp/test.png'<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    tdrive </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> tfile</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    path </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> Sketchup</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">get_resource_path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'helpcontent'</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    patha </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    patha</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> tdrive<br />    parts </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> patha</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">size </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">-</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> 1<br />    root </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'../'</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> parts<br />    file </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">join</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> patha</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">join</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxstring">'/'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">),</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> root</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'temp'</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'test.png'</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">exist</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> file </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span>

Returns:
true
( file = H:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Resources/en-US/helpcontent/../../../../../../../temp/test.png )
So you have to know the drive letter of the file you are testing and then cludge that into the tested path...
It will then work across drives on a network - unsure of a MAC though ???

thomthom

But, does that work for the instructor?

TIG

@thomthom said:

But, does that work for the instructor?

My original idea works as the number of steps down the folder structure equals the number of steps up...
If I add in a drive letter cludge it fails - bamboozled...

thomthom

Yea, if we have to specify a path relative to a fixed one we're restrained to the drive the fixed path originates from.
(unless someone can show of a neat trick around that...?)

So far, my wrapper looks like this:

<span class="syntaxdefault"><br />  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># Get Instructor Path<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment">#<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># Tool.getInstructorContentDirectory expects a path relative to SketchUp's<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># Resource/<locale>/helpcontent/ folder, despite the documentations use an<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># absolute path.<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment">#<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># This method is a wrapper that generates a path to the actual help content<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># which SketchUp can use.<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment">#<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># The given path must be under the same drive as SketchUp's help content.<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment">#<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># This quick exist in all current SketchUp versions.<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># Current; SketchUp 8 M1<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  def self</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">get_instructor_path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    origin </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> Sketchup</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">get_resource_path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">'helpcontent'</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># Check if drive matches<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    origin_drive </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> origin</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">match</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">/^(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">w</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">);/</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    if origin_drive<br />      origin_drive </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> origin_drive</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">1</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">].</span><span class="syntaxdefault">downcase<br />    end<br />    path_drive </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">match</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">/^(</span><span class="syntaxdefault">w</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">);/</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    if path_drive<br />      path_drive </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path_drive</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">1</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">].</span><span class="syntaxdefault">downcase<br />      path </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">2.</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">..</span><span class="syntaxdefault">path</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">size</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># Trim drive letter<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    end<br />    if path_drive </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">&&</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> origin_drive<br />      return nil unless origin_drive </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">==</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path_drive<br />    end<br />    </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># Build relative path<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    parts </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> origin</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">split</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">SEPARATOR </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">).</span><span class="syntaxdefault">size<br />    path_to_root </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxstring">"..#{File;;SEPARATOR}"</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> parts<br />    relative_path </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> File</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">join</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path_to_root</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> path </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    return relative_path<br />  end<br /></span>

Not tested under OSX.

bentleykfrog

@thomthom said:

Yea, if we have to specify a path relative to a fixed one we're restrained to the drive the fixed path originates from.
(unless someone can show of a neat trick around that...?)

Ohhhh!!!! Just tested, Volume traversal on a mac!

plugin_path = File.dirname (__FILE__)
root_dir_entries = Dir.entries(plugin_path+"/../../../../../../Volumes/")
puts root_dir_entries

Hmm, if I save a model on my primary hard drive (the hard drive that my user folder is set on and sketchup is installed on) and run model_path = Sketchup.active_model.path in the Ruby console I get the following path: /Users/[my user name]/Desktop/Untitled.skp. But if I save to another drive I get /Volumes/[drive namespace (not the letter)]/Untitled.skp.

Will have to check on pc.

thomthom

Anyone with a non-English SketchUp?

Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent' )
I'm wondering if the names of files and folders in the Resource folder depends on the current locale.

Dan Rathbun

@ThomThom: The base of the help content is:
Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent/tool' )

thomthom

@dan rathbun said:

@ThomThom: The base of the help content is:
Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent/tool' )

The base for which Tool.getInstructorContentDirectory base that paths on is:
Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent' )

See my earlier snippet: http://forums.sketchucation.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=180&p=314120#pr314106
Tried and tested under Windows, English SketchUp locale.

Dan Rathbun

@thomthom said:

Anyone with a non-English SketchUp?

Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent' )
I'm wondering if the names of files and folders in the Resource folder depends on the current locale.

The files MUST be the same name, so that the LangHandler class can find them. (see the 'langhandler.rb' script in the Tools folder.)

Beneath the 'helpcontent/tool' folder, all the subdirs have numerical names corresponding to tool_id, so they should be the same for all locales.

I cant see Google changing the names of direct subfolders of the locale folder (but who knows... I guess it's best to check. Perhaps PM Didier, he runs in French right?)

thomthom

Full path on my computer:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google SketchUp 8\Resources\en-US\helpcontent

What I'm wondering is if the folders after en-US, the locale folder, might change. That maybe one needs to query the LangHandler for helpcontent ?

Just like to get it confirmed by a non-English user that the helpcontent folder remains as it is across locales.

Dan Rathbun

@thomthom said:

@dan rathbun said:

@ThomThom: The base of the help content is:
Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent/tool' )

The base for which Tool.getInstructorContentDirectory base that paths on is:
Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent' )

See my earlier snippet: http://forums.sketchucation.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=180&p=314120#pr314106
Tried and tested under Windows, English SketchUp locale.

Hmmm. why are Chris and the B'frog reporting 4 parent dirs up to the Sketchup dir ?

bentleykfrog

This returns the eraser tool on my system.

def getInstructorContentDirectory
  return "\\21019\\"
end

Its a long way around but I'm thinking that it would be possible to write the required files and folders to the /temp/ folder on the C:/ drive before the tool loads, then use a relative path to the /temp/instructor/ directory in getInstructorContentDirectory. This would avoid the volume traversal problem but I think it would be a bit of a headache.

Chris Fullmer

My understanding is that it ia looking in the "tool" folder for content, so it 4 steps back to the base SU directory. This is the path on the machine I am on right now:

C:\Program Files\Google\Google SketchUp 7\Resources\en-US\helpcontent\tool

That worked for me, are you guys seeing differently?

Dan Rathbun

Man.. I hate these crappy UI.inputboxes in the SU API !!

This is ridiculous !

thomthom

@chris fullmer said:

That worked for me, are you guys seeing differently?

The snippet I posted work for me when I added it to Bezier Tools as a working example. I generate a relative path from Sketchup.get_resource_path( 'helpcontent' )

bentleykfrog

@dan rathbun said:

PC:
VER = Sketchup.version.to_i USER_PLUGINS = File.expand_path("#{ENV['APPDATA']}\Google\Google SketchUp #{VER}\SketchUp\Plugins")

Sorry for the late reply Dan, but on my Windows 7 machine there's no Sketchup Folder, ie. USER_PLUGINS = File.expand_path("#{ENV['APPDATA']}\Google\Google SketchUp #{VER}\Plugins") would work.

Chris Fullmer

That is also what I have Niall. What is that extra folder you have there Dan?