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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
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      Maybe there is Punch hole in the center of the Milky way πŸ˜‰

      Frenchy Pilou
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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        Does it possible to have an Set Angle in context menu?
        angle.jpg

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
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          Pilou... explain a little more...
          I guess you want to have a punched hole that isn't square to the wall's face !
          It wouldn't be easy...

          However, you can easily mimic it...
          First make a HolePunch and then draw over an Edge of the inner punched-hole so it forms a Face, now select just that Face and Move that Face to where you want and it [or you can Scale it to change one or more of its Edges] - the reveals' geometry will adjust to suit the inner-hole's new location or shape, then you can Erase just the Face and you have your distorted punched hole/reveals. This geometry will still auto-Select with the punching component-instance and it will move/delete with it etc etc...

          TIG

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          • R Offline
            rv1974
            last edited by

            Hi Tig!
            Coud you take a look at attachment. The script actually ungluesthe windows


            nopunch.skp

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              @rv1974

              The problem is that the instance is exactly the same 'depth' as the wall - see the Ruby Console for its errors - I can probably trap for that easily... watch for updates...

              TIG

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                I guess you want to have a punched hole that isn't square to the wall's face !

                no no, a square (rectangle) at the start and end πŸ˜‰
                At least any form ! In fact that is a push pull inclined (multiple, if you have some components πŸ˜‰

                angle2.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
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                  Pilou...

                  Do what I said...
                  Form a Face over the inner-hole by over-drawing an Edge.
                  Select just the Face.
                  Move the Face.
                  Select the Face and Delete it.
                  The hole/reveals are now 'sloping' in 3D.

                  To make 'splayed' reveals you can Scale the Face before Deleting it...Capture.PNG

                  TIG

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
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                    Following some feedback...
                    Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=271170#p271170
                    Components exactly matching wall-depth glitch fixed.
                    Zero depth in dialog trapped.
                    πŸ€“

                    TIG

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      Ah yes, seems thas was also a video about this tricky tips πŸ‘
                      But all that is very "manual" πŸ˜„
                      Automatic is more pleasant πŸ˜‰

                      It's was this one β˜€
                      [flash=480,385:344mybyx]http://www.youtube.com/v/_ALbktAE9C8?fs=1&hl[/flash:344mybyx]

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
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                        Why don't put by default infinite depth, and just set depth if wanted? πŸ˜‰

                        Frenchy Pilou
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                        • david_hD Offline
                          david_h
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                          So far. . .so good.

                          Thanks TIG.

                          D

                          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            Why don't put by default infinite depth, and just set depth if wanted? πŸ˜‰

                            Because if there were no 'inner-face' to the wall how would it know when to stop extruding the reveals ?
                            You could add say 1000m as the maximum punch depth and this would be remembered in the model... BUT then if there were ever a wall with no inner-face you'll get v_e_r_y deep reveals ! The 20"/500mm default seems a reasonable depth to start off with ?

                            TIG

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                            • EarthMoverE Offline
                              EarthMover
                              last edited by

                              Is it only supposed to punch a hole if the punch depth matches the wall thickness exactly? If I put in a depth greater than the wall thickness, I get no punch....is this correct?

                              BTW - Thanks TIG for finishing this up and publishing!


                              Hole punch.jpg

                              3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                              Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                              Content Creator at Skapeup

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Because if there were no 'inner-face' to the wall how would it know when to stop extruding the reveals ?

                                Cousin Component Punch punches all the volume without to know the size? πŸ˜‰

                                @unknownuser said:

                                then if there were ever a wall with no inner-face

                                don't launch the script ❓

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  The way it works is you set the maximum punched depth [the default is 20"/500mm, but you can permanently change it for that model at any time] - just decide on a value knowing that all your various wall thicknesses are probably always less than that.
                                  The holes are them punched to match the actual wall thickness, IF it's =20" or less [the hole's reveals also match the inner-face material/layer] - BUT if you have a one-face wall [or a very thick wall] then the reveal depth is made as the maximum =20" [and the reveals then match the outer-face material/layer].

                                  The code that checks for the inner-face is still not perfect - but I am sleeping on it...
                                  Currently a 'ray' is cast internally from the front-face, centered on the cutting-component instance, until it finds a suitable face that's parallel and facing the right way. If there isn't one it then uses the default reveal size... It's currently possible to trip it up if your component also has a face/edge exactly on the center and at the same distance from the front-face as the real candidate for the inner-face - the ray can mistakenly find that instead of the required face and so it misses it and 'defaults the reveal depth... I suspect this is your case ???
                                  It is possible to test in other ways - for let's say faces' planes and points being 'on' them at the correct 'thickness'... so I just need to think up some better coding solutions - maybe tomorrow - I'm tired now........... πŸ€“

                                  TIG

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                                  • EarthMoverE Offline
                                    EarthMover
                                    last edited by

                                    For me, the raytest seems to miss the parallel wall in every case where my depth is greater than the wall thickness. I'm just using generic SU windows to test, but also tried with simple shape components I made myself to be sure there was no line in the direct center. Every time it seems to be punching through to the bounds of the punch depth. No worries though, I typically offset my walls to the same thickness, so I can just math the punch depth with that and all is well. Overall, it's a great solution for an age old ruby puzzler. πŸ‘

                                    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                    Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Adam

                                      I'm making a more robust version now and will post it later today....... πŸ˜‰

                                      TIG

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                                      • R Offline
                                        rv1974
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi! I have hard times trying to copy or simply select the punched components. Could you improve it?
                                        P.S. A science fiction request: Could it punch on multiple feces or at least corner windows (2 faces)?


                                        punch.skp

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
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                                          rv1974

                                          You are making life more difficult for yourself than it needs to be...
                                          You components are made exactly the depth of the wall ! This means that the reveals are obscured by the component itself...
                                          Why not make them a simple 2D rectangle cutting-component that you place on the outer-face, and you then let the 'Hole Punching...' make the hole's reveals and the hole in the inner-face etc - that way the wall thickness could vary and the reveals will adjust to suit for the one 2D component - and is then more easily selected too.

                                          You CAN select the component-instances using the Outliner as needed...

                                          Please read the tool's notes... you should NOT 'copy' component-instances that are 'punched' [unless you are going to 'unlink the punches' or 'undo the punching' immediately afterwards], because the observers and linking attributes etc will get 'tangled up'. So usually you should only copy un-punched component-instances - but remember that if they are punched you can always use: select them > 'undo punch' > do the copying > re-select them > 'punch' again... πŸ’­

                                          I've only just got this single wall hole-punching working and now you want punched corner windows - aaaargh! πŸ˜’ πŸ˜‰

                                          TIG

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=271170#p271170

                                            The finding the inner-face methods have been made more robust - now an inner-face will only be used if it is the correct orientation / side of the wall, AND it is within the specified maximum depth from the outer-face, AND its geometry overlaps at least the center of the component-instance, AND if there are several suitable 'candidate' faces then it is taken as the one 'nearest' to the outer-face.

                                            Also an 'Unlink Punch' option has been added - this will 'unlink' a selected component-instance and its punched-hole geometry.

                                            Please read the Notes... πŸ€“

                                            TIG

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