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    • daleD Offline
      dale
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      Otis
      Yes this happens to me, either when I type in the exact measurement or use the tape tool. Te difference for me is that it is usually Archvis drawings, and are based on cad drawings where the measurements are accurate, so will not affect an outcome such as a cut list. So I let it go.
      Strangely, the measurements are always 1/16" out.

      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
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        @otis said:

        I can adjust for that, but now I have less faith in the program. Is this a known fault and if so how common is it?

        sketchup is actually extremely accurate (within it's own allowances - 1/64" i think).. every time a post like this has come up (that i've seen), the error can be traced back to the user..

        can you post a .skp showing the error? i'd be very(very) surprised to see a sketchup file showing what you're saying it is.

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        • daleD Offline
          dale
          last edited by

          This would be hard for me to do Jeff, as it usually involves an action that happens earlier on in the process,( i.e. typing in the parameters of the rectangle that will form the basis of the model, say 36', 24'), and then further down the line pulling of a measurement that indicates that it is 36' 1/16".
          I usually type in my parameters, be it length of line, tape tool, or rectangle, so I'm sure I'm not adding 1/16". It has happened more than once, but as I said most of my clients wouldn't question the discrepancy, as it usually ends up as a visual, not a dimensioned drawing.

          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            i dunno, i use sketchup for working drawings all the time.. often way more complex than boxy type construction.. i've never once found a mathematical error by sketchup itself and if i did come across a discrepancy, i could trace it back to myself and/or my drawing method..

            my post was more directed at otis though who is seemingly saying that in his .skp file, 1 + 1 = 3.

            here's a thread from a while back where the user was saying something similar.. maybe something like this is happening to otis?
            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23381

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            • daleD Offline
              dale
              last edited by

              Well there is no doubt that during the process I could have done something that bumped the measurement, the same way I sometimes inadvertently erase something in an cleanup. I will be paying more attention.

              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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              • J Offline
                Jim
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                First thing might be to check to make sure the Units Precision is set to the most precise. If it isn't, the dimensions can be rounded off.

                Hi

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                • daleD Offline
                  dale
                  last edited by

                  Interesting, although my precision was set to 1/64, snapping was at 1/16, so that may have been my problem. That's why these threads are so valuable. Thanks

                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                  • O Offline
                    Otis
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                    I knew it had to be me, or is it. Here's the frame in question. Somehow it don't work out right, I think. โ“ Notice the one opening at 9 9/16" when measured directly, then add up the measuremnts taken from the top down, or visa versa.I work to 1/64" BTW.


                    weird face frame.skp

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
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                      otis..

                      didn't realize you were using the dimension tool as a means of measuring.. using that won't include the '~' in front of the dimensions.

                      if you measure your distances with the line tool or the tape measure , then you'll see that your distances are written like " ~9 9/16" .. (notice the ~ symbol in front of the numbers.. that means approximately)

                      the accuracy in the file is set to 1/16" so sketchup will only go down to 16ths.. if the real dimension is say 5/64 then sketchup will display ~1/16" which is the closest 16th to 5/64.

                      you can change the accuracy in model info -> units but even then, this file still has the '~' symbol showing up in front of some of the measurements.. (meaning some of your rails are placed at 128ths" or smaller)

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                      • O Offline
                        Otis
                        last edited by

                        Dang, you're right. I always work to 1/64, so I didn't even check to see that somehow the units got changed. My bad ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
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                          here's a version drawn to the specs i think you're after.. (also cleaned up some weird things in there... hidden vs. softened lines.. if those were intentionally hidden instead of soft, sorry)

                          the left/right measurements were a little screwy as well but it's now exactly 31 x 48


                          otis_fixed_measurements.skp

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                          • O Offline
                            Otis
                            last edited by

                            Thanks Jeff, that looks good. I know I've had a brain fart when I look at my spelling. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ A-N-O-M-A-L-Y. There , I knew I could do it ๐Ÿ˜„

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                            • Jean LemireJ Offline
                              Jean Lemire
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                              Hi folks.

                              Make sure that you disable length snapping in Model infos --> Units. It may create unwanted snaps on an invisible grid that may not match your intended intervals.

                              Since SU can accept precise values and its inference engine is also precise, I don't use this feature.

                              Just ideas.

                              Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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